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Title: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Parky11 on September 18, 2017, 09:24:10 AM
With our results over the last couple of weeks, do you think the Farsley Celtc match is must WIN or must not lose????
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: cheshire cat on September 18, 2017, 10:25:43 AM
It's not a must win but anything less than a win at home leaves me unhappy. If we want to be promotion contenders you've got to win your home games.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 18, 2017, 12:44:56 PM
It's a must win. They could be long term frontrunners, so we need the three points to close the gap.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Alty Dave on September 18, 2017, 02:03:36 PM
This is no easy game tomorrow, they have better form than us coming into it. So will be interesting to see how we react to Saturday on the pitch and Phil's war cry to the players. if we are more clinical then we can get a good result I am sure.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: oneedham on September 18, 2017, 02:16:16 PM
I do not understand this post? Every single football game is a must win or there is no point even playing, whether that is a Champions League final or a Sunday league game.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Teasierbeaver on September 18, 2017, 03:28:40 PM
I suppose must win means if we dont there's a consequence?

Will it stop us winning the league? No
Will it mean the manager has to go? No
Will it mean the fans have completely lost faith in the manager? No

If we lose tomorrow and lose again on Saturday then I think its very different. We already need a couple of players to come in. Maybe Miller, Taylor and Richman are enough along with the young keeper. So if we havent got six more points by saturday night then either new players come in and a couple go or these lads come back and transform the team. After that if we still arent winning then it wont be looking good for us and those who want to call for the managers head wouldnt be considered being too harsh.

I think we'll win tomorrow and again on Saturday, then we'll get players back and keep the momentum.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: dunhamalty on September 18, 2017, 05:10:33 PM
Whatever happens we need to get James Poole back in the team for tomorrow night. Even if he plays with one leg he will provide more creativity than most!
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Steve from Sale on September 18, 2017, 07:10:06 PM
More worried about what James Walshaw is up to, that said there must be certain frailties in their defence as they have lost some games. We will have to be on our mettle tomorrow to beat them, but our defence may struggle against James W
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Jezza on September 19, 2017, 01:37:34 PM
I bet the farsley fans haven't got an innovative amusing catchy song for JW.....
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 19, 2017, 01:56:30 PM
Alty - Evs
Draw - 13/5
Farsley - 2/1
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 19, 2017, 04:36:34 PM
Farsley at 2/1 is great odds!
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Hulme Robin on September 19, 2017, 09:47:14 PM
Entertaining win. We looked like Barca once or twice tonight.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: andrewflynn on September 19, 2017, 09:54:49 PM
Twenty minutes after the full time whistle on a 6-0 win and there's one comment.

..................
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: wayno on September 19, 2017, 09:57:20 PM
Twenty minutes after the full time whistle on a 6-0 win and there's one comment.

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the neighsayers need to get on here and congratulate the team on our biggest win in an age


well done alty one love
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Teasierbeaver on September 19, 2017, 09:58:18 PM
Reminds me of the Sinnott era all over again this.

Well done lads. Three more points on Saturday please!
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Alty Dave on September 19, 2017, 10:01:01 PM
Well done tonight lads, great response after the debacle at Shildon.

Against the dirtiest team I have seen in an age you played them off the park, 80 minutes before they got a shot on target. Pity more did not witness it, I hope a few more supporters start coming back. On that performance the team deserve it.

Up the Alty
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: dunhamalty on September 19, 2017, 10:05:20 PM
Best performance I have seen from Alty in years. Everyone played well. Both centre backs were immense they didn't give Walshaw a chance. Hopefully we can take that confidence into Saturday. Well done lads!
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: cheshire cat on September 19, 2017, 10:07:21 PM
I lost count at one stage. Good result tonight. We look really useful going forward. A couple of goals involved lucky ricochets but you've got to make your own luck.
It could have been a lot more.
Bring on Saturday.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: bigedd on September 19, 2017, 10:07:32 PM
Well played.the Robins.
Awesome.Shift by all the Team.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Bath Alty on September 19, 2017, 10:09:37 PM
listening to RR this season it's sounded like we had a score like this in us if we got a bit of luck - or even just stopped with the bad luck and mid-game injuries etc.  Great that it finally clicked against a team near the top.  Really good confidence boost and with Poole to come back as well....and Miller.....looking good
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on September 19, 2017, 10:13:44 PM
Well done all, cracking result
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: oneedham on September 19, 2017, 10:15:35 PM
That was a very good performance. JJ was immense. High tempo and closing down high up the pitch. Really enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: andrewflynn on September 19, 2017, 10:19:35 PM
Reminds me of the Sinnott era all over again this.

Well done lads. Three more points on Saturday please!

A direct flashback to the Sinnott, I think. We were knocked out of the Cup by Witton and went on to beat Boston 7-1 the following Tuesday?
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 19, 2017, 10:36:21 PM
From dogsh*t to the dog's bollocks in three days. Whatever PP said to them after Saturday's debacle, it must rank alongside "We shall fight them on the beaches" !

Brilliant display from the whole team. More of the same on Saturday please ! Proud to be Alty tonight.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 19, 2017, 10:37:44 PM
Farsley at 2/1 is great odds!
I hope you weren't tempted!
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: robininstockport on September 19, 2017, 10:39:15 PM
Superb performance all round. Well done to PP for putting Hanigann at cb. Walshaw got nothing out of both cb's.

Immense performances everywhere, but Johnson was my mom.

They were sh*te. Literally about 15 teams could win this league.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: AFC56 on September 19, 2017, 10:39:31 PM
Played well, JJ was superb , but test will be how we cope when every ricochet and loose ball doesn't fall to us and the opposition are better than 'inept' as JL rightly said. Everybody wanted the ball in the last 20 mins and the movement was excellent, but will these same players be wanting the ball and to express themselves when things are tough? Time will tell.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: PukkaPieman on September 19, 2017, 10:45:47 PM
Excellent performance all over the pitch with pace and skill, their midfield didnt have a clue how to deal with us that was the key plus tremendous graft from every one of them.
Makes you wonder how we didnt produce 10mins of that magic on saturday but its a work in progress and on the evidence of tonight, this team could become very successful even at a higher level.
I think other teams wont give us that much space again though to play.

Onwards and upwards  ;D
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: The Red Baron on September 19, 2017, 10:53:19 PM
Up the Robins!
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: jhcorbett on September 19, 2017, 11:05:28 PM
Well done to all the players and management tonight, they all put in a great effort and fully deserved the result from that.

Pity it took a miserable FA cup exit to get the response, but keep going with that kind of graft and we'll do well.

Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 19, 2017, 11:11:29 PM
We can beat every team in this league with that sort of tempo. Ten minutes of that on Saturday and we'd have still been in the FA Cup. They need to replicate this every week, Farsley were blowing out of their arse by half time. And the home supporters have to hold these officials to account. The freekick that led to the first goal was a red card all day long. We must get on these officials backs collectively from the first one in every game and make it know we will not accept these levels of officiating
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Sarf London Alty on September 19, 2017, 11:16:16 PM
Well done lads, by any stretch beating the team who were joint top pre-game 6-0 is tremendous.

Onto Saturday now, I see Maggie Thatcher's boys have lost 4 of their last 5 in all competitions with 12 conceded, time to dish out another beating I hope.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Alty Bri on September 19, 2017, 11:20:52 PM
Well, given the amount of shots/corners/possession we've had recently, somebody was going to get a hiding. Let's see if we can exercise a bit of consistency now. Thought we'd win both matches and still do. Well done everybody.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Mick on September 19, 2017, 11:40:59 PM
JJ imense tonight - on 85 mins sprinted 100m zig zag fashion and closed down their entire back four in their own 18 yd box

This is what we should be capable of most weeks - not big scores - but bossing teams

As Mr Mogg says another ref who misses the key moments  -
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 19, 2017, 11:56:12 PM
JJ imense tonight - on 85 mins sprinted 100m zig zag fashion and closed down their entire back four in their own 18 yd box

This is what we should be capable of most weeks - not big scores - but bossing teams

As Mr Mogg says another ref who misses the key moments  -
The ref didn't miss ANY of the key moments. He simply dealt with them inadequately. Two of the yellow cards, including Walshaw, were  definite reds. Another was borderline.

Sore losers, no class.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Sale Holmfield on September 20, 2017, 12:21:37 AM
Obviously an excellent result against a team who were somehow high in the table (somehow? Their home form is vastly better than away, and they have had a lot of home games) and it was good to see us compete so well against a very physical team, considering the doubts expressed against the team's temperament or stomach for a battle.

I long had a feeling that the team would or could click and give someone a thrashing, but didn't think it would be against a club third in the table!
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Is this it? on September 20, 2017, 12:25:10 AM
Little doubt that tonight's performance was the best I've seen for a very long time.  As someone posted earlier, there have been a few games that have made me think that a fat shoreline was possible, but this evening's performance finally realised these hopes.  Both JJ, looks full of confidence (rightly so) and Djembo-Lita, stood out for me but there were lots of positives from across the team.

I hope they enjoyed the shared celebration with the fans at the end of the match.  They must remember that feeling ahead of the weekend game as developing that winning mindset makes a huge difference.  Happier tonight.

Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: JTH on September 20, 2017, 02:25:53 AM
As comprehensive a dismantling as I can remember and that includes 8-0 vs Hinckley and 7-1 vs Boston. They couldn't handle JJ's pace or our counter attacking and I thought the back four were very solid throughout. A word too for Sheridan whose cross field passing was excellent. I'd give us the credit for making them look as poor as they did, you don't become inept sat joint 2nd in the league by accident. What we saw tonight was the 90 minutes the team has promised us in patches up to now, their challenge is to replicate it for the remainder of the season. If they can I think we've every chance of promotion, provided the referees allow us to get eleven fit players on the pitch - their interpretation of the laws of the game continue to mystify.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Jezza on September 20, 2017, 07:05:10 AM
A superb response to the shildon game.

Onwards and upwards...we are in this to win it.

We will tend to do well against sides who dont close us down...farsley were late into every tackle...we will need to be as clinical against the more organised 'weaker' opposition...

Well done pp and the team
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Stan Hibbert on September 20, 2017, 07:06:33 AM
What a performance and, as said by others, it was inevitable that it was coming and that someone was going to get a good hiding.

How good are we potentially going to be with a fit Poole and Miller?

The league's that poor that practically anyone could win it so why can't we and with performances like that we will.

From 1 -11 we were immense but the stars of the show have to be JJ and Sheridan, but they were all good.

Still left scratching my head as to how we lost at Shildon but that's done now and we are on to Saturday.

Proud to be an Alty fan today and looking forward to Saturday.

Well done to all involved.

Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Silent but Ledley on September 20, 2017, 09:16:56 AM
Excellent result tonight marred in my eyes by a referee who was limp to say the least. No one wants to see players sent off unnecessarily however they should have had 2 red cards tonight and got off lucky with that. 
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Silent but Ledley on September 20, 2017, 09:23:19 AM
And,   just looked at the league tables. We are the second joint top scorers in the league with 19 goals. Have a guess who (somehow) have 1 more? U got it Farsley. Ironic ehh!
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: distancetraveller on September 20, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
Finally go home after midnight due to fkn overnight roadwork closures on the M56 and A49...

Well we swept Farley aside with ease tonight, a great team performance. Watching JJ will always have you on the edge of your seat and is a great asset to the club..

Well chuffed with this display and we should fear nobody if we play like that.. Mr Walshaw was kept in his box tonight by our defence

The only down side was yet another set of incompetent officials

Well done one and all.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 20, 2017, 11:01:25 AM
Farsley at 2/1 is great odds!
I hope you weren't tempted!

Haha No I didn't bother. Great win,let's hope this kicks the season off now.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 20, 2017, 07:29:26 PM

Well done tonight lads, great response after the debacle at Shildon.

Against the dirtiest team I have seen in an age you played them off the park, 80 minutes before they got a shot on target. Pity more did not witness it, I hope a few more supporters start coming back. On that performance the team deserve it.




Last evening's official gate of 497 was our lowest attendance for a home league fixture since Tuesday, 7th December 2004, when we recorded a 3-1 victory against Vauxhall Motors in the Nationwide North (attendance on that particular evening: 478).
 
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: JTH on September 20, 2017, 08:04:22 PM
Last evening's official gate of 497 was our lowest attendance for a home league fixture since Tuesday, 7th December 2004, when we recorded a 3-1 victory against Vauxhall Motors in the Nationwide North (attendance on that particular evening: 478).
 


Still the largest crowd of the night, including a Cheshire derby. What times.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: wayno on September 20, 2017, 09:08:07 PM
A 13 year low for us ... on the night the highest attendance

So upsetting
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Alty Dave on September 20, 2017, 09:12:59 PM
Were rebuilding so hopefully after last nights result we will see an increase in attendance over the coming games, especially if the results keep coming.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: wayno on September 20, 2017, 09:16:36 PM
Were rebuilding so hopefully after last nights result we will see an increase in attendance over the coming games, especially if the results keep coming.
lets hope so .The away crowds (or lack of it ) will be hurting too

Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 21, 2017, 09:07:07 AM
Were rebuilding so hopefully after last nights result we will see an increase in attendance over the coming games, especially if the results keep coming.

The results are nothing to do with why a lot of people are staying away.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: andrewflynn on September 21, 2017, 09:16:58 AM
Were rebuilding so hopefully after last nights result we will see an increase in attendance over the coming games, especially if the results keep coming.

The results are nothing to do with why a lot of people are staying away.

I completely agree, but I think there was a blacklash to Saturday's result that knocked a fair few more off of Tuesday's attendance. 497 is frightening.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: robininstockport on September 21, 2017, 10:44:06 AM
I reckon that's about 200 stay away fans.

I doubt more than 50 are boycotting because of off field issues.

The problem is once people get out of the habit of coming, its hard to get them out of it.

With both City and United kicking off at 3-00pm on Saturday it could well be another poor crowd.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: hsmith1 on September 21, 2017, 11:19:26 AM
Its time these people got behind the team
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Jezza on September 21, 2017, 11:27:54 AM
it's up to people wether they turn up or not.

I desperately want to stay away....but I do want to support the manager and the team.....as I haven't been able to get to as many away games as I wanted due to work I have been to Moss Lane more times than I intended......so I booed them off against Stafford and clapped till they were off the pitch the other night.....I'm enjoying the season so far even though we are thrashing top of the league 6-0 one day and losing to bottom of the league without a shot on goal the next....

I don't really know how to protest but maybe it goes on the back burner until we are promoted......or maybe some form of silent dirty protest is in order  ;D ;D ;D ;D

End of the day we shouldn't be in the league in the first place and could have been eyeing promotion back to the conference this season....
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 21, 2017, 12:47:34 PM
Its time these people got behind the team

It's all very well saying that from the opposite end of the country. People Have their own reasons for staying away and that has to be respected, wether your agree or not. With respect to a lot of supporters, that will only change when change at the head of the football club happens. These people aren't idiots they are lifelong home and away supporters, that contribute a lot to the club, or did.Some even travelled to shildon on Saturday from various parts of the country and stayed in the bar. Some are only attending away games. Maybe they feel detached from what was once their club, who knows. It's not as simple as winning a few games in the hfs loans league and everything's tickerty-boo. I have chosen not to boycott games, but fully respect everybodies decision if they do or don't. Team comes first for me, but that doesn't mean it's the right or wrong way to go about things.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 21, 2017, 01:06:03 PM
Its time these people got behind the team

I get behind the team at every away match I attend.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: hsmith1 on September 21, 2017, 04:08:54 PM
so do i,but i do not see them that much these days,i have watched them since 1963 and these last 2 years have been our toughest.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: GB Alty on September 21, 2017, 08:14:40 PM
Its time these people got behind the team
Poor post, another win and everythings ok. Get the bunting out now, thank you Mr Rowley
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Alty Dave on September 21, 2017, 08:34:38 PM
Whats app saying there is an update tonight from the board on the share issue....
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: AltySupporter on September 21, 2017, 08:46:02 PM
Its time these people got behind the team
Poor post, another win and everythings ok. Get the bunting out now, thank you Mr Rowley

One day you'll post something positive. We won well on Tuesday and some of us actually enjoyed seeing our team win. Sorry it spoilt your sniping agenda. Comments like that are totally unnecessary.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Sale Holmfield on September 21, 2017, 09:24:21 PM
While I wouldn't quite put it in the way Octopussy did, and I certainly did enjoy the win on Tuesday, it is impossible to ignore that we are competing at a different level; as has been mentioned, our worst home league crowd for 13 years was still the best of the night in the division. We should be doing well at this level with the resources available.

I am not boycottting games myself, but I completely respect the motives of those who do after what has happened in recent years. It definitely does not mean they are not proper supporters as some seem to imply.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: GB Alty on September 21, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
Its time these people got behind the team
Poor post, another win and everythings ok. Get the bunting out now, thank you Mr Rowley

One day you'll post something positive. We won well on Tuesday and some of us actually enjoyed seeing our team win. Sorry it spoilt your sniping agenda. Comments like that are totally unnecessary.
Keep clapping, it might be the answer?
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 22, 2017, 08:50:47 AM
Its time these people got behind the team
Poor post, another win and everythings ok. Get the bunting out now, thank you Mr Rowley

One day you'll post something positive. We won well on Tuesday and some of us actually enjoyed seeing our team win. Sorry it spoilt your sniping agenda. Comments like that are totally unnecessary.

It was actually a very valid post. Yes,Tuesday was a great win that will keep the happy clappers smiling but the underlying problem still exists.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Matt Taylor on September 22, 2017, 09:43:12 AM
I reckon that's about 200 stay away fans.

I doubt more than 50 are boycotting because of off field issues.

The problem is once people get out of the habit of coming, its hard to get them out of it.

With both City and United kicking off at 3-00pm on Saturday it could well be another poor crowd.


Look at home attendances for the final 5 games of last season when we had no chance of staying up, were rooted to the bottom of the league, the football was awful, the entrance fee 40% higher than this season, and we still averaged 850 (with minimal away fans).
On that basis, I'd suggest there are plenty more than 50 currently boycotting home games for off-field reasons.

With no changes at the top, or timeframe for change, I expected we would fall into the 400s at some point this season. But I really wasn't expecting it to be this soon. Particularly on the back of a decent run in the league which had seen us win 4 of the last 5 going into the game!

And, as I said the other week, the real cost of relegation to the gate receipts alone will be well in excess of £100,000 to the football club over the course of this season, should the status quo at board level continue.
Worrying times...

Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Matt Taylor on September 22, 2017, 10:00:21 AM
Were rebuilding so hopefully after last nights result we will see an increase in attendance over the coming games, especially if the results keep coming.

The results are nothing to do with why a lot of people are staying away.

I completely agree, but I think there was a blacklash to Saturday's result that knocked a fair few more off of Tuesday's attendance. 497 is frightening.

Perhaps. But the only comparable occurrence in recent years I can think of was when we lost at Trafford in the FA Cup, and our attendance either side (the home games were immediately either side) increased by over 200 from the Gloucester City game before the Trafford defeat to the Guiseley game following the Trafford defeat.

Plus, a lot more were there to witness the humiliation at Trafford first-hand than the 30 or so at Shildon - not including the sizeable number who stayed in the bar for the game and so didn't have to suffer it first-hand either...

Agree 100% that 497 at this early stage of the season is terrifying.

Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: GB Alty on September 22, 2017, 10:07:12 AM
The poor crowd has nothing to do with the result at Shildon or any other game - we have only attracted more than 600 fans once this season out of five attempts - clearly there is a deep rooted problem
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Alty5678 on September 22, 2017, 04:49:34 PM
A thread about a game which Altrincham won 6-0 has descended into a 'Rowley out' thread.

I'm fairly new to the forum, does this happen on every thread irrespective of what the initial topic is? It seems to be very common.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 22, 2017, 09:32:04 PM
A thread about a game which Altrincham won 6-0 has descended into a 'Rowley out' thread. I'm fairly new to the forum, does this happen on every thread irrespective of what the initial topic is? It seems to be very common.

I assume, when you say you're new to the forum that doesn't mean you're new to supporting Alty. If not, I'm surprised you're surprised.
Title: Re: Farsley Celtic
Post by: Nom de plume on September 22, 2017, 09:50:49 PM
The poor crowd has nothing to do with the result at Shildon or any other game - we have only attracted more than 600 fans once this season out of five attempts - clearly there is a deep rooted problem
It's called relegation to the glue league. Very little to do with any boycott.