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Indeed, a very premature end.

Quote from: StaffsAlty on March 25, 2023, 09:07:09 PM

Certainly seemed more than 318 in the away end
Wonder if there is a trend to under report the away support especially as there was certainly more that 663 of us for the Trophy game at York

I can confirm factually that there were 318 in the away end - there were plenty of gaps if you looked from the right angle, and the Southend fans weren't that tightly bunched up.  When we see 900 Halifax fans in the Scoreboard end next week we will see the difference, and we will also see if the away end is capable of holding more. 

similarly with the Gold Road End - 1350 sounds alot, but I believe it can safely hold more, but the capacity has to be capped due to crap terrace design and limited ability to put in crush barriers as a result.

The club does not under report attendances, though it seems possible that other clubs may do.

That's it! The answer to our prayers. Get digging.

I think there were more in than stated today. I wondered if the season ticket holders friends got in under the radar.

I suppose the big issue is the likelihood that a player will get a long term injury. It's a high risk occupation. In most lines of work health and safety legislation means you are unlikely to get a long term injury and if you do your employer is likely to be held responsible.

I used to work for a company that only had fifteen employees. One of my colleagues had a car accident that prevented them from working for 12 months. Paying her wages, national insurance and pension as well as a replacement temp did put the organisation under financial strain such that the company owner changed everyone's tems and conditions once she had made a recovery. The owner admitted that paying someone's wages seemed like the right thing to do when the company was making a decent profit but was more difficult to justify when the hard times arrived.

I suppose if this is going to go ahead players will have to think about personal insurance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65053526?fbclid=IwAR2Cl3e1XS1pce6O5xsTDI6NsQsVlwYZJgQnyWNz6o-8mCukicX7NmjBx1o

But you don't get to League 2 without being promoted; which means a swell (either due to being in a title race, or a PO final), which could probably added 1500 on to our average.

Throw in plenty of locals sides (Crewe, Salford, Rochdale*, Stockport) for a few sell out 1800 away ends, and we wouldnt be far off a 4k minimum attendance.

Then add in publicity of regular EFL highlights, surge of a League cup tie.

Sutton have gone from below 1k to 3k average.

Except Crewe Salford and Rochdale have all got below average attendances in L2 https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-two/attendances and the away end shouldn't be holding 1800 with the inadequate facilities we currently have. We thought they were poor at York and there was only 800 of us.

If you want the bigger attendances you need to expand the scoreboard end for the teams that do have a strong away following. Otherwise we aren't going to survive.

Played around a bit with google maps and some tracing paper and the moss lane footprint is bigger than Homebase and car park.


Regarding smartening the place up I think most people were hoping to increase the capacity at the same time. I've got to agree with a new wall on the Golf Road to smarten things up but if we wanted to put a roof on the score board end I wonder how high that would have to be and the effect it would have on the apartments.

Currently average gate in league 2 is 5500. Without a benefactor we need to get to that kind of level to have a reasonable player budget.