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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Alty Dave on March 04, 2024, 10:42:28 AM
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Huge game, won't be easy, but the rot needs to stop. Need a gutsy performance and ideally a win.
Whatever team is picked, hope Ethan is back, we need to get behind them.
Come on Alty..
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Needs to be as near as possible to our first eleven - including Ethan - a big performance, big crowd cheering us on, and three points!
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Huge game. I know they whooped Chesterfield on saturday, but chesterfield were awful.
Alty 3-2 Dorking (Linney, Con-Clarke x 2)
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I think that much depends on Ethan Ross being back. Our squad is fragile.
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I'd imagine Dorking will have most of the ball which might play into our hands a little bit as we're now much more a counter attacking side. Outcome depends on the old cliches of how we defend under pressure and if we can take the chances we get as I'm confident they'll come.
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I'd imagine Dorking will have most of the ball which might play into our hands a little bit as we're now much more a counter attacking side. Outcome depends on the old cliches of how we defend under pressure and if we can take the chances we get as I'm confident they'll come.
Dorking have a few defenders who are getting on a bit. Maybe it could find them out on a proper pitch which will be soft (in racing terms) and only a few days since there last game.. having said that, our lads need to up their game also.
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if Ethan is not fit i would play Ollie Byrne in goal
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if Ethan is not fit i would play Ollie Byrne in goal
His old man, posted a picture on Twitter of a car losing its wheel, with the caption "The wheels are falling off" just after his son had been named on the bench in the game we lost.
After the sh*te I would be fining him his wages and sending him down to the donkey field to train with the under 9's. Our social media policy must surely include close family & "representatives".
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Wouldn't be having Byrne anywhere near the squad
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if Ethan is not fit i would play Ollie Byrne in goal
His old man, posted a picture on Twitter of a car losing its wheel, with the caption "The wheels are falling off" just after his son had been named on the bench in the game we lost.
After the sh*te I would be fining him his wages and sending him down to the donkey field to train with the under 9's. Our social media policy must surely include close family & "representatives".
Definitely an instance of a Byrne being a talking head who had begun to stop making sense.
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if Ethan is not fit i would play Ollie Byrne in goal
His old man, posted a picture on Twitter of a car losing its wheel, with the caption "The wheels are falling off" just after his son had been named on the bench in the game we lost.
After the sh*te I would be fining him his wages and sending him down to the donkey field to train with the under 9's. Our social media policy must surely include close family & "representatives".
Definitely an instance of a Byrne being a talking head who had begun to stop making sense.
TBF after the last few games we're all a bit tense and nervous and we can't relax
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6 of the 8 teams above us play each other so somethings gotta give . Now's the time to start a good run and get back challenging again . Nothing less than a win will do imo , come on lads you can do this.
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Confirmed line ups - no Ethan Ross
Altrincham: Gould, Banks, Edward Jones, Baines, Osborne, Marriott, Linney, Cooper, Newby, Kosylo, Conn-Clarke.
Subs: Amaluzor, Angus, Roscoe, Wilson, Mooney.
Dorking Wanderers: Male, Cook, Hollis, Fuller, Pybus, Briggs, Carter, Josh Taylor, Blair, Prior, Rutherford.
Subs: Bobby-Joe Taylor, Craig, McManus, Muitt, Moore.
Referee: Robert Massey-Ellis (West Midlands)
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2-nil and flying. This is the team we were watching six games ago.
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Down to 10 men😠. Linney off. This could really go pear shaped now…
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No idea what's going on but Linney's just been sent off in first half added time. FFS.
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And they’ve just hit the bar when they should have scored. This is going to be a long 45 minutes
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We’re gonna lose this…. :(
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2-1. It was all going so well.
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We need to get Kosylo off before the ref does it for us. :-\
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Roscoe on for Kosylo, thank God. He's played a great game but has been on seriously thin ice with the ref who is completely unpredictable.
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Wow! My pessimism got me but talk about a “backs to the wall” performance! Well done we dug that out massively!!
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Well done boys, unbelievable battle.
Baines and Banks stood out.
Thank god we started with that tempo and got two goals ahead.
Sounds like Linney was silly, gutted as he was coming into top form.
They were naughty, with so many off the ball contacts.
That second half was hideous to watch but fair play to the lads.
Whilst Linney is out, I would have CCC as a fake 9, Kossy 10, with Amulazor and Newby out wide.
Thank god we subbed Kossy, he was close to getting that second yellow.
Massive 3 points.
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Epic performance. This was the red card by the way...
https://x.com/dmaudsley/status/1765139214679597335?s=20 (https://x.com/dmaudsley/status/1765139214679597335?s=20)
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Nothing too violent or malicious. Looks like shoulder to the shoulder/back of the defender but you can’t be doing that off the ball no matter what he said when he turned round between the original contact and linneys response
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Avoiding defeat tonight means no team can do the double over us in the league this season. When was the last time we managed that? (At this level)
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That was magnificent by the lads tonight. What looked like a comfortable return to form was turned on its head by Linneys red card. Second half it was like we were the away team at the Etihad, barely left our own half, Dorking had all the ball & we had to work ever so hard off the ball. But the resilience, attitude & desire were tremendous. If Linneys was a red card then so was the one after we scored our first. Dorkings attitude really disappointed me, desperately trying to get Kosylo sent off & going down like there was a sniper in the main stand. Let’s hope they go down.
Linney being out for 3 games is a problem but we have a few days to work on the shape & a solution & make it back to back home wins against Woking on Saturday now.
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Epic performance and much needed.
I can handle the ref being sh*te, but when they're sh*te for both teams. That seem very one sided.
Linney is going to be a massive miss for 3 games
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That was Ross Joyce levels of ineptitude from the ref, so he'll be in the league next year no doubt.
The move on Isaac after the first goal would be a citation in Rugby, the lad stepped over and dropped the shoulder on him. Assault.
The defence was immense tonight, Lewis Baines is the best central defender we've ever seen at the club. He's put more incredible blocks in this season than I can even begin to list. Tonight's full-faced block was up there with the best.
Dorking have clearly realised they need to be a bit nasty to get results when you are at the wrong end of the table. I don't particularly begrudge them that, but the ref had no idea how to deal with it. It ruined the game as he lost more and more control.
Win in the bag though and one that will hopefully bring the lads together.
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Note for the fans in the stands. Epic. Loudest I've ever heard them on stream.
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Our defending tonight was epic, but I am worried that we look like a very very weary team right now - I'm not sure what can be done, or indeed whether we have the resources to do anything about it.
The ref was the first I have seen this season that you could objectively call s***.
Dorking have 2 excellent wingers but they are a horrible, horrible club and I pray for the good of everyone else in the league that they are relegated.
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Heroic defensive work by the whole team tonight, great to have 3 points again.
Dorking obviously one of the more cynical sides in the league and played the ref like a fiddle throughout. Even during our 2 goals they managed to get dirty fouls in either during the build up or straight after the quickly taken free kick for the first. Obviously never punished by the ref.
Just seen the Linney red card, Dorking obviously look to wind opposition players up and if Linney has fallen for it then he needs to learn sharpish. Not sure it is worth an appeal? But he'll be missed now he's suspended. They tried the same on Kosylo (e.g. screaming at him when he went down following another Dorking foul) - wisely he didn't react that time but was obviously on thin ice and sensible to be subbed.
We started very well though and looked very dangerous in the first 20 mins or so. Bold double subs by their boss saw them have a lot more of the ball, then the sending off meant the second half was torture to watch at times given how little possession we had. Delighted we held out for justice! ;D
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I spoke to Ethan Ross tonight, he hopes to be available for Saturday. Great news
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I thought Dorking were a niggly team who were more interested in roughing up our lads than scoring. I won’t be sorry to see them get relegated and it would be great if we were to confirm their demise in April, I am thinking of going to that game in Surrey.
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Epic performance. This was the red card by the way...
https://x.com/dmaudsley/status/1765139214679597335?s=20 (https://x.com/dmaudsley/status/1765139214679597335?s=20)
Please don't rush to judgement solely on the basis of that particular clip though, as it only comprises the first instalment of the ongoing incident which resulted in Linney being sent off.
From my seat in the main stand, I happened to catch a good view of the whole altercation.
Following Linney's initial barge of the Dorking defender, I kept my eye focused on the two players, as verbals were being exchanged and you just sensed that a sequel was impending.
Alas, Linney proceeded (both senselessly and naively) to run back towards the Dorking player, raise his right arm and then barge into him across the upper chest with a trifle more force. Inevitably, the Dorking defender cynically capitalised on this impetuous deed by promptly holding his face and collapsing onto the turf.
I doubt that the referee witnessed the incident, so I would suspect that the red card was issued on the advice of his assistant (who was in front of the sponsors lounge at the time). Harsh, to my mind, but Linney needs to learn that such indisciplined behaviour almost cost us dear on the night and will now almost certainly result in him being unnecessarily absent for three matches at a vital stage of the season.
All I will add is that it was a pity that the same linesman wasn't quite so eagle-eyed when it came to spotting a Dorking player's assault on Marriott in the aftermath of our opening goal.
As for the game itself, that second half resembled Rorke's Drift in Zulu, only with Lewis Baines instead of Michael Caine.
Potentially a pivotal victory, both in terms of the ultimate league position and the team's morale in the wake of five consecutive defeats.
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New from Wikipedia...On March 6th 2024 the battle of Moss Lane, Altrincham....what am i saying ! That second half was Alty's version of Bannockburn , Dunkirk and Waterloo all rolled into one !!! Whatever happens now from here on in , we must not doubt the lads belief, passion and fighting qualities that we witnessed in that epic second half . To misquote a famous speech..."we will fight them on the pitches , we will never surrender ".Truly heroic .
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March 5th 2024 🙄
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Big big win that obviously meant a lot to the players judging by the full-time scenes - well done to all the supporters that rallied round the team, I have no doubt in my mind that the fire in the belly the players started the game with was in no small part down to the reception they received before kick-off (and I'm not normally a fan of pyros!)
Dorking have obviously started resorting to the dark arts much more frequently than they used to, which perhaps is symptomatic of their league position - I have little sympathy for Regan Linney in those sorts of situations because you're always going to get verbals with opposing players and you can't give the ref a decision to make like that - he needs to learn (and that goes for Matty Kosylo too).
My biggest worry now is that the players will be completely out on their feet - we've never needed a freshen up more when it comes to loans, I wouldn't be surprised to see Dan Mooney come in from the start on Saturday seeing as he should be nice and fresh, hopefully Justin Amaluzor (and obviously Ethan) can make a contribution too.
Regan Linney will be a big loss, given how essential he is to the way we play - we can't get away with Dior Angus I'm afraid, he's not good enough (which was never more evident than last night).
Shout out to George Wilson for his energetic cameo towards the end - he really helped to take the sting out of their momentum with some timely interceptions and ball carries.
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What a great result. I don't understand the comments about the team looking tired. They put 120% in to get to 2 - 0 and then had to play their socks off with ten men for the whole of the second half. They should be tired after that. So happy that they didn't concede a second, that would have been gut wrenching. I don't think Matty K will ever learn, it's what makes him tick. Hopefully, Linney will let his boots do the talking. He's certainly proving to be a handful.
Full credit to the Golf Road choir tonight. Easily heard for the whole of the match and great support. Can't always say that when we've got an extra 600 casuals in on a Saturday afternoon.
I can't see Dorking getting relegated. They responded well after the two subs came on and gave us plenty of problems. Well taken Penalty. Matt had no chance even though he went the right way.
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I agree with comments before, what a battling performance. Under the pump for most the 2nd half. Poorest ref ever seen at ML. One sided toward Dorking as well, obviously the joking with there manager/owner before the match paid dividends in the warm up. Hopefully Linney red can be rescinded, but silly petulance that we don't want to see.
Another tough game Saturday but really pleased with the points from last night.
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Epic performance. This was the red card by the way...
https://x.com/dmaudsley/status/1765139214679597335?s=20 (https://x.com/dmaudsley/status/1765139214679597335?s=20)
Please don't rush to judgement solely on the basis of that particular clip though, as it only comprises the first instalment of the ongoing incident which resulted in Linney being sent off.
From my seat in the main stand, I happened to catch a good view of the whole altercation.
Following Linney's initial barge of the Dorking defender, I kept my eye focused on the two players, as verbals were being exchanged and you just sensed that a sequel was impending.
Alas, Linney proceeded (both senselessly and naively) to run back towards the Dorking player, raise his right arm and then barge into him across the upper chest with a trifle more force. Inevitably, the Dorking defender cynically capitalised on this impetuous deed by promptly holding his face and collapsing onto the turf.
I doubt that the referee witnessed the incident, so I would suspect that the red card was issued on the advice of his assistant (who was in front of the sponsors lounge at the time). Harsh, to my mind, but Linney needs to learn that such indisciplined behaviour almost cost us dear on the night and will now almost certainly result in him being unnecessarily absent for three matches at a vital stage of the season.
All I will add is that it was a pity that the same linesman wasn't quite so eagle-eyed when it came to spotting a Dorking player's assault on Marriott in the aftermath of our opening goal.
As for the game itself, that second half resembled Rorke's Drift in Zulu, only with Lewis Baines instead of Michael Caine.
Potentially a pivotal victory, both in terms of the ultimate league position and the team's morale in the wake of five consecutive defeats.
Love reading your eloquent summaries Barry… Long May your pen flourish Sir.
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Elephant....room....has CCC picked up an injury from the relentless kicking he received? We only had four fit players on the bench again (If Amaluzor is 100% I'm pretty sure he'd have been given a run) and if CCC isn't fit, and with Linney definitely out, we're going to struggle for cover. We certainly need Donowa back (played a full match for Chorley last night, and his long throw would give us an extra tactic), and a loan striker would be of real benefit.
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Elephant....room....has CCC picked up an injury from the relentless kicking he received? We only had four fit players on the bench again (If Amaluzor is 100% I'm pretty sure he'd have been given a run) and if CCC isn't fit, and with Linney definitely out, we're going to struggle for cover. We certainly need Donowa back (played a full match for Chorley last night, and his long throw would give us an extra tactic), and a loan striker would be of real benefit.
Parky said tactical to bring Dior on, it tied up a defender or two quite often as we played 4-4-1 and at times 4-5. Dorking manager said same in his interview and it hampered them somewhat as they ran out of steam. I am sure come Saturday we will see Justin at some point
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I thought Angus you played his role fairly well last night which was essentially being in CCC’s position but playing it defensively. Not an easy task
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I thought Angus you played his role fairly well last night which was essentially being in CCC’s position but playing it defensively. Not an easy task
I agree. I thought he worked really hard when he came on..
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What a great result. I don't understand the comments about the team looking tired. They put 120% in to get to 2 - 0 and then had to play their socks off with ten men for the whole of the second half. They should be tired after that. So happy that they didn't concede a second, that would have been gut wrenching. I don't think Matty K will ever learn, it's what makes him tick. Hopefully, Linney will let his boots do the talking. He's certainly proving to be a handful.
Full credit to the Golf Road choir tonight. Easily heard for the whole of the match and great support. Can't always say that when we've got an extra 600 casuals in on a Saturday afternoon.
I can't see Dorking getting relegated. They responded well after the two subs came on and gave us plenty of problems. Well taken Penalty. Matt had no chance even though he went the right way.
Parky said himself recently that there was not a lot left in the tank and as you say, last night's heroics will have made us even more weary. We desperately need fresh faces.
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I thought Angus you played his role fairly well last night which was essentially being in CCC’s position but playing it defensively. Not an easy task
I agree. I thought he worked really hard when he came on..
He worked hard, but by God he goes down way too easy. Especially when getting the ball in our final third then dropping like he's been shot. Not a fan of that tbh. 100% behind him for the next 3 games though.
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Agree about Dior and his antics. Let's not kid ourselves that we don't have players who are happy to fall over and roll around like some of the Dorking players. Isaac Marriott was trying to get the Dorking player sent off after the first goal, with his reaction. Matty Kosylo is another player who can roll around as well at times. Every team unfortunately has these types of players.
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I think the difference is that we don't have it as the main plank of our plan A game plan as they seem to do.
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How was the foul on Newby as we scored the second only a yellow?
The fracas after the first goal was all a bit overblown. Nothing in it for me.
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How was the foul on Newby as we scored the second only a yellow?
The fracas after the first goal was all a bit overblown. Nothing in it for me.
Agree on Newby, could and should have been red.
If watch the first incidence, Marriott was running to celebrate with Regan, there defender stepped into his path and nastily blocked him off with lowered shoulder. Well disguised and got away with it. Minimum yellow in my eyes and possibly a red. officials were so poor on Tuesday.
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Watched the Alty TV highlights and there is no doubt at all in my mind that Dorking should have had two players sent off, one after each of our goals. I'm now hoping they get relegated - a nasty little team.
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Marc White today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh1mY_axWiM Fair do's to him says Linney wasn't a red and they should've had two sent off for the incidents we know about. Clearly not happy about his player's conduct, including Taylor's dive for which he got a yellow and as a result is now banned. Also has no complaints about our quick free kick for the first goal. The benefit of watching the highlights and a couple of days to reflect I think.
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He still strikes me as a dodgy used car salesman. A sort of young Arthur Daley.
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What struck me most about the interview is how big his forehead is.
Huge
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What struck me most about the interview is how big his forehead is.
Huge
Thought Exeter went back to Metalunar! 😉
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Mark White is certainly a character with a very dodgy dress sense but his two early subs was quite inspired
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Mark White is certainly a character with a very dodgy dress sense but his two early subs was quite inspired
A wealthy bloke who made his money whilst a London Banker (not Cockney rhyming slang).
Also Chairman of the club..