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Title: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: VofD on April 27, 2007, 01:56:20 PM
With 20 minutes left to play at St Albans, Alty were leading 4 - 1.
Taken from John Laidlar's summary of that match :
Curiously, Alty manager Graham Heathcote stormed down the tunnel, 20 minutes from the end, seemingly annoyed that his team were not following his instructions.

So, tomorrow, PLEASE, PLEASE ignore his instructions, and his rantings during the match,AND BRING HOME THE BACON

All the very best for a great victory
.
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: Red N White Dynamite on April 27, 2007, 01:58:30 PM

So, tomorrow, PLEASE, PLEASE ignore his instructions,

Maybe not the best idea.

Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: VofD on April 27, 2007, 02:04:29 PM
Why not. Ignore him, and we win. Listen to him, and we lose.!!!!!!
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: Red N White Dynamite on April 27, 2007, 02:05:15 PM
What a load of toilet!!
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: Jezza on April 27, 2007, 02:10:40 PM
Not heard the 'cote yellkng "stop the cross" this year...the key to many a Unibond victory.

I think we can all echo V of D's sentiments...put it in the onion bag, give 110% for 90 minutes and bring it on!

Hey I'm worried now but this time tomorrow adrenalin will take over and the nerves will dissappear.

The script is all set for Justin Bowler to score the winner inn the 90th minute for me...just hope it's for Alty.
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: teasybeaver on April 27, 2007, 02:43:23 PM
Wow VofD is back, and suprise suprise he's uprooted everyone in the controversy stakes!

Not entirely sure ignoring the manager will bring success, but of course, some idiots even believe Elvis is still alive!

VofD's other sentiments do ring true, perhaps VofD tomorrow could be a milestone, an opportunity to cheer the team and not jeer the manager?
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: VofD on April 27, 2007, 02:48:50 PM
I ALWAYS cheer the team on.Its the manager I can't stand.
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 27, 2007, 02:49:08 PM
Wow VofD is back, and suprise suprise he's uprooted everyone in the controversy stakes!

Not entirely sure ignoring the manager will bring success, but of course, some idiots even believe Elvis is still alive!

VofD's other sentiments do ring true, perhaps VofD tomorrow could be a milestone, an opportunity to cheer the team and not jeer the manager?

You fool.

Elvis is alive......and his name is Marcus Hallows.

Very amusing post from VofD.
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: lukealty12 on April 27, 2007, 04:21:32 PM
I ALWAYS cheer the team on.Its the manager I can't stand.

hes still agreat manager but funny post :D
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: Red N White Dynamite on April 27, 2007, 04:24:28 PM
I ALWAYS cheer the team on.Its the manager I can't stand.

So how does that work?

"Great ball Colin! Bloody rubbish Heathcote! Great tackle Val! You're useless Heathcote!"

 ;D
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: markecky on April 27, 2007, 04:26:19 PM
From my time at the main stand on the PA..yes!
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: teasybeaver on April 27, 2007, 04:39:54 PM
I ALWAYS cheer the team on.Its the manager I can't stand.

My point was that you could do one and not the other. Preferably, cheer the team on. Really cant see how your feelings for Heathcote could have a positive effect tomorrow, therefore, leave them behind.
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: VofD on April 27, 2007, 06:15:27 PM
OK I will. BUT just for tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: AltySi on April 27, 2007, 06:52:16 PM
I ALWAYS cheer the team on.Its the manager I can't stand.

Well isn't this just F'in brilliant, the night before such a massive game, you come on making comments like this, we really need to pull together, like or dislike Graham, like or dislike any of the players, we all want the same thing and we should give EVERYONE at the club our total support from 3.00 until 4.50 tomorrow, so stop making unsettling comments and back the club!
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 27, 2007, 08:21:30 PM
I do believe that it is possible to support your team and yet dislike your manager simultaneously.

I can't say that I ever really warmed to John Williams as Alty's manager from 1986 to 1987 but I still followed the Robins loyally during that period.

Oh, and as for that walking publicity stunt, Tommy Docherty, I couldn't wait to see the back of him at Moss Lane!
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on April 27, 2007, 08:30:57 PM
Alty Si,

I'm sorry to repeat this post from a previous thread and I know that this will get me Peaked to death but can I ask for a bit of a reality check here please?

Actually no, I'm not sorry at all. It's about time the blinkers came off and people woke up and smelt the coffee. We are in the $h!te end of and I think that telling people how they should conduct themselves and what to think is disrespectful at least and quite possibly offensive.

You are an adult, so am I and so is VoD. We are all entirely capable of independent thought and live in a democracy. Last time I checked that meant that we were allowed to express an opinion.

Nobody, so far as I can see has told you that you have to do or think anything tomorrow so please extend the same courtesy to others.

Somebody holding a different opinion to you is not necessarily wrong.

We are in a position which no amount of burying of heads in the sand will alter.

Nobody so far as I can see has posted to say that they want us to go down in fact the majority of posts are the precise opposite.

If any player is upset by some of the 'negativity' posted on here then they really shouldn't be playing at this level and if the Club is 'destabilised' then it doesn't belong at the top of Non-League Football. Despite many of us bleeding red and white stripy blood and seeing the world through lenses of the same design Altrincham is not perfect nor faultless and it is unrealistic to pretend that it is and, although highly laudible as a concept, it would be a grave error to subdue opinion just because it wasn't positive.

People care deeply about Alty, that's why they poke their heads above the parapet to be shot at by posting on here.

If we don't get the end result we want (staying up) then there will need to be changes made and it is a sign of how healthy the club is that this can be discussed on here without dissenting posts being deleted because they don't toe the party line.

The world is a hard place and Football gets more stressful and unpleasant for the general supporter the higher you get purely because there is more to lose.

Let's please continue to discuss these issues  honestly with positive and negative viewpoints being expressed without fear of ridicule or repercussion.
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: Bob on April 27, 2007, 09:04:12 PM
Being fair, you're saying that we are all allowed to express an opinion but then you criticise somebody (in this case AltySi) for expressing his?

To be honest, isn't somebody as entitled to criticise VoD's view as VoD is to hold it?  Why shouldn't someone criticise what VoD wrote (and VoD is entitled to write it BTW)?    There's no "party line" in my book, no "thought police" (as is sometimes quoted on this forum) b*llocks either.

If it isn't libellous or in bad taste, I see no harm with what is written on here.  If somebody is criticised there usually is a reason for it.  If AltySi doesn't like what VoD wrote then let him say so, and then VoD has the chance to reply, and so on and so on. 

This is going nowhere. Come on Alty!

 




Alty Si,

I'm sorry to repeat this post from a previous thread and I know that this will get me Peaked to death but can I ask for a bit of a reality check here please?

Actually no, I'm not sorry at all. It's about time the blinkers came off and people woke up and smelt the coffee. We are in the $h!te end of and I think that telling people how they should conduct themselves and what to think is disrespectful at least and quite possibly offensive.

You are an adult, so am I and so is VoD. We are all entirely capable of independent thought and live in a democracy. Last time I checked that meant that we were allowed to express an opinion.

Nobody, so far as I can see has told you that you have to do or think anything tomorrow so please extend the same courtesy to others.

Somebody holding a different opinion to you is not necessarily wrong.

We are in a position which no amount of burying of heads in the sand will alter.

Nobody so far as I can see has posted to say that they want us to go down in fact the majority of posts are the precise opposite.

If any player is upset by some of the 'negativity' posted on here then they really shouldn't be playing at this level and if the Club is 'destabilised' then it doesn't belong at the top of Non-League Football. Despite many of us bleeding red and white stripy blood and seeing the world through lenses of the same design Altrincham is not perfect nor faultless and it is unrealistic to pretend that it is and, although highly laudible as a concept, it would be a grave error to subdue opinion just because it wasn't positive.

People care deeply about Alty, that's why they poke their heads above the parapet to be shot at by posting on here.

If we don't get the end result we want (staying up) then there will need to be changes made and it is a sign of how healthy the club is that this can be discussed on here without dissenting posts being deleted because they don't toe the party line.

The world is a hard place and Football gets more stressful and unpleasant for the general supporter the higher you get purely because there is more to lose.

Let's please continue to discuss these issues  honestly with positive and negative viewpoints being expressed without fear of ridicule or repercussion.
There's no right, no wrong,
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: AltySi on April 27, 2007, 10:38:12 PM
Alty Si,

I'm sorry to repeat this post from a previous thread and I know that this will get me Peaked to death but can I ask for a bit of a reality check here please?

Actually no, I'm not sorry at all. It's about time the blinkers came off and people woke up and smelt the coffee. We are in the $h!te end of and I think that telling people how they should conduct themselves and what to think is disrespectful at least and quite possibly offensive.

You are an adult, so am I and so is VoD. We are all entirely capable of independent thought and live in a democracy. Last time I checked that meant that we were allowed to express an opinion.

Nobody, so far as I can see has told you that you have to do or think anything tomorrow so please extend the same courtesy to others.

Somebody holding a different opinion to you is not necessarily wrong.

We are in a position which no amount of burying of heads in the sand will alter.

Nobody so far as I can see has posted to say that they want us to go down in fact the majority of posts are the precise opposite.

If any player is upset by some of the 'negativity' posted on here then they really shouldn't be playing at this level and if the Club is 'destabilised' then it doesn't belong at the top of Non-League Football. Despite many of us bleeding red and white stripy blood and seeing the world through lenses of the same design Altrincham is not perfect nor faultless and it is unrealistic to pretend that it is and, although highly laudible as a concept, it would be a grave error to subdue opinion just because it wasn't positive.

People care deeply about Alty, that's why they poke their heads above the parapet to be shot at by posting on here.

If we don't get the end result we want (staying up) then there will need to be changes made and it is a sign of how healthy the club is that this can be discussed on here without dissenting posts being deleted because they don't toe the party line.

The world is a hard place and Football gets more stressful and unpleasant for the general supporter the higher you get purely because there is more to lose.

Let's please continue to discuss these issues  honestly with positive and negative viewpoints being expressed without fear of ridicule or repercussion.

Totally missed the point, I am not saying that people cant't have opinions, just that now is not the time to start voiceing them, we need to pull together whatever you might think of X, Y or Z. Tomorrow is massive, there is no need to start making unsettling comments, and starting disagreements between supporters, which is exactly what has happened here now - so well done. Lets put our feelings to one side and roar the lads on to survival tomorrow !!
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on April 28, 2007, 12:12:49 AM
Being fair, you're saying that we are all allowed to express an opinion but then you criticise somebody (in this case AltySi) for expressing his?

To be honest, isn't somebody as entitled to criticise VoD's view as VoD is to hold it?  Why shouldn't someone criticise what VoD wrote (and VoD is entitled to write it BTW)?    There's no "party line" in my book, no "thought police" (as is sometimes quoted on this forum) b*llocks either.

If it isn't libellous or in bad taste, I see no harm with what is written on here.  If somebody is criticised there usually is a reason for it.  If AltySi doesn't like what VoD wrote then let him say so, and then VoD has the chance to reply, and so on and so on. 

This is going nowhere. Come on Alty!

 As AltySi quite correctly says and should be commended for it the most important thing is that we win tomorrow and that the support is excellent.

I wasn't criticising AltySi per se, just what seems to be (to some of my work colleagues who have read the forum over my shoulder during  the past few days)  a belief that if we all shout nice and loud then we'll win and that if anyone does, says or posts anything less that 1000% supportive we're stuffed.

Sorry, been here too many times over that past thirty odd years not to recognise the neccessity for a spoonful of realism , must be getting old and cranky




Alty Si,

I'm sorry to repeat this post from a previous thread and I know that this will get me Peaked to death but can I ask for a bit of a reality check here please?

Actually no, I'm not sorry at all. It's about time the blinkers came off and people woke up and smelt the coffee. We are in the $h!te end of and I think that telling people how they should conduct themselves and what to think is disrespectful at least and quite possibly offensive.

You are an adult, so am I and so is VoD. We are all entirely capable of independent thought and live in a democracy. Last time I checked that meant that we were allowed to express an opinion.

Nobody, so far as I can see has told you that you have to do or think anything tomorrow so please extend the same courtesy to others.

Somebody holding a different opinion to you is not necessarily wrong.

We are in a position which no amount of burying of heads in the sand will alter.

Nobody so far as I can see has posted to say that they want us to go down in fact the majority of posts are the precise opposite.

If any player is upset by some of the 'negativity' posted on here then they really shouldn't be playing at this level and if the Club is 'destabilised' then it doesn't belong at the top of Non-League Football. Despite many of us bleeding red and white stripy blood and seeing the world through lenses of the same design Altrincham is not perfect nor faultless and it is unrealistic to pretend that it is and, although highly laudible as a concept, it would be a grave error to subdue opinion just because it wasn't positive.

People care deeply about Alty, that's why they poke their heads above the parapet to be shot at by posting on here.

If we don't get the end result we want (staying up) then there will need to be changes made and it is a sign of how healthy the club is that this can be discussed on here without dissenting posts being deleted because they don't toe the party line.

The world is a hard place and Football gets more stressful and unpleasant for the general supporter the higher you get purely because there is more to lose.

Let's please continue to discuss these issues  honestly with positive and negative viewpoints being expressed without fear of ridicule or repercussion.
There's no right, no wrong,
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 28, 2007, 12:56:56 AM
ATS,

Here's a slice of realism for you.....you are not getting old, you have already got there!!

At least we have a bakewell tart to look forward to at half-time tomorrow...

Since when was dissent unpatriotic?
Title: Re: Plea to the players of Altrincham FC
Post by: Altysmiffy on April 28, 2007, 07:30:20 AM
I ALWAYS cheer the team on.Its the manager I can't stand.

Surely the manager is part of the team?