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markecky

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Re: Sinnott's success before now
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2012, 01:53:29 PM »

I take all that on board Ecky and perhaps I've misphrased it. The point I was making was that I didn't necessarily expect too much of LS in the way of his track record, which was the only measurable thing we could go on.

Some of the other stuff that, as you say, is important LS has done quite well in (some attacking football, bringing youth team players through). But that does need to be linked to a clearer development of the actual team.

Quite agree Ballers.  It wasn't really aimed at you just a general point.

Hindsight a great thing, many people didn't want Gary Lowe as he hadn't done anything other than kept Curzon around the top of the table a couple of leagues below.  I think Taxi Phil did but all the other talk was of ex premier league players and such.
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Jenga

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Re: Sinnott's success before now
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2012, 02:33:43 PM »

My point about Ferguson, was that I was in the Stretford End when petitions were being passed around to kick Fergie out. Look what happened.

I think there is still time for Sinnott yet which is what I am ultimately driving at.

Admitidly things need to improve though, but the signs are there that they will.
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fuertes

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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2012, 02:45:37 PM »

What an absolute load of tosh! I am quite happy to support the team through thick and thin and cheer the players on but im not falling for this give him time sh*te budget or no budget if it aint working and lets face it it aint, fix it by january!! Or i fear attendences could fall etc

also comparing sinnot to heathcoate is laughable, gh virtualy lived at the ground speak to young players like sam sheridan etc they knew what a good manager he was and how much he cared thats why sinnot cant sign a decent rat into moss lane!

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whopper

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Re: Sinnott's success before now
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2012, 02:54:53 PM »

What an absolute load of tosh! I am quite happy to support the team through thick and thin and cheer the players on but im not falling for this give him time sh*te budget or no budget if it aint working and lets face it it aint, fix it by january!! Or i fear attendences could fall etc

also comparing sinnot to heathcoate is laughable, gh virtualy lived at the ground speak to young players like sam sheridan etc they knew what a good manager he was and how much he cared thats why sinnot cant sign a decent rat into moss lane!

2/10 on the trollometer. Must try harder.
if the truth has to be trolling..... then so be it
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TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe

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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2012, 03:30:11 PM »

Cult is right, hardly fair for us to rake over his past. What I would say is we knew what we were getting, that promotion with Farsley was all that was really a relevant achievement to his appointment, none of us thought we weere getting a guaranteed championship winning manager.

I said at the time I was underwhelmed and I still am really but to provide a little bit of balance we're not a million miles away from being effective. We just need a better target man, a fitter left back and just a little bit of nous to keep it tight and set up properly occasionally. The open style of football is admirable but 49 games in it hasn't got us in 5th position for any more than I think 2 weeks max.

I'm not so sure we'll ever win the league or go up quite like this tbh.

When you interview football managers it isn't just about what they have done in the past.

Its in the plans that they have and the way they answer your questions.  

It's also about their personal demands and their team budget demands

When I was on the board as supporters director I sat in on an interview with a manager with an excellent track record on a limited budget who had applied for the Alty job.

He talked himself out of the job by spending the first half hour telling us what he would need, the type of car he would want and the the fact he would need a budget five times bigger than the one he had acheieved success with.  And that as he lived far away (further than Hull) he would need three nights a week in a hotel.  

By the time we got round to the questions about what his thoughts were  in bringing through youth players it was immaterial.


Ecky,

Go on then, I'll have a guess.....Tony Lee of Bishop Auckland?

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Re: Sinnott's success before now
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2012, 12:00:44 AM »

Firstly, it wasn't Gary Talbot who put the ball into the net after it rebounded back into play against Alfreton in 2004.
It was Eddie Hussin.
And we actually went on to lose that game 2-1 anyhow.

And I have to say that you are doing the 2004/05 team a disservice in your description of that valiant 3-2 victory at Kettering Town.
I can't believe that any Alty fan who attended that particular game would write about it in those terms.

I think that's precisely his point. You can make any hard-fought/close victory sound a bit sh*t if you're detemined to put that spin on it.

None of us talk about that game like that, so why should we start talking about Farsley's achievements in that manner?

Apologies to ATS if I've completely misrepresented what he was saying, by the way...

Thanks, and indeed you did not misrepresent it at all

I was at Kettering and, on that day, as with many other days, I thought we were the best team outside the Football League, if not the Champions League (okay that last bit was silly, I apologise)

However, if you were to substitute our then Manager and our Current Manager and look back with a particular 'slant' on the achievement of the end of that season, it could be interpreted as being the luckiest promotion since Nick Clegg
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Jimmy

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« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2012, 01:08:17 AM »

My point about Ferguson, was that I was in the Stretford End when petitions were being passed around to kick Fergie out. Look what happened.      



if frank rijkaard and avb kept there jobs people wouldnt rave about barca and chelsea would' not be champions league winners
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Re: Sinnott's success before now
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2012, 05:24:59 AM »

My point about Ferguson, was that I was in the Stretford End when petitions were being passed around to kick Fergie out. Look what happened.      



if frank rijkaard and avb kept there jobs people wouldnt rave about barca and chelsea would' not be champions league winners

how do you know that? Nobody will ever know. Was di Matteo a shoe in for success? Of course not. And over the years, Barcelona have appointed some of the best coaches around, who duly didn't do much.
 
Funny how AVB got the Chelsea job and ended up replaced by somebody whose
track record in management was nowhere near as good. Yet this is a thread about
Sinnott's track record before he got to Alty. 
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Jimmy

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Re: Sinnott's success before now
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2012, 06:35:00 AM »

My point is  when saying a manager should have more time the taggart argument has many counter arguments but yes I was going of subject to be fair
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