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Title: Lockdown
Post by: JD on October 31, 2020, 07:47:57 PM
Premier league will continue, but will we be able to play during the latest shambles?

Do we count as "Elite*"

*Not sure Dover do with their behaviour today!
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 31, 2020, 07:54:00 PM
FA said elite sport will continue, grass roots will stop so assume we will carry on
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: rorysgrandad on October 31, 2020, 08:02:34 PM
Premier league will continue, but will we be able to play during the latest shambles?

Do we count as "Elite*"

*Not sure Dover do with their behaviour today!
nor Hartlepool with their win at all costs philosophy ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: JD on October 31, 2020, 08:20:39 PM
Premier league will continue, but will we be able to play during the latest shambles?

Do we count as "Elite*"

*Not sure Dover do with their behaviour today!
nor Hartlepool with their win at all costs philosophy ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺

In fairness, though classless, 'Pool had the decency to explain their understandable reason, which I take as a complement to Alty FC
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 31, 2020, 10:24:50 PM
Premier league will continue, but will we be able to play during the latest shambles?

Do we count as "Elite*"

*Not sure Dover do with their behaviour today!
nor Hartlepool with their win at all costs philosophy ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺

Judging by tonight's annihilation that philosophy has more holes in it than Swiss cheese ☹️
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: JD on October 31, 2020, 10:30:19 PM
Premier league will continue, but will we be able to play during the latest shambles?

Do we count as "Elite*"

*Not sure Dover do with their behaviour today!
nor Hartlepool with their win at all costs philosophy ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺

Judging by tonight's annihilation that philosophy has more holes in it than Swiss cheese ☹️

You'd need a heart of stone not to laugh!
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: rorysgrandad on October 31, 2020, 10:37:48 PM
Premier league will continue, but will we be able to play during the latest shambles?

Do we count as "Elite*"

*Not sure Dover do with their behaviour today!
nor Hartlepool with their win at all costs philosophy ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺
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In fairness, though classless, 'Pool had the decency to explain their understandable reason, which I take as a complement to Alty FC
I suppose admitting you’re a bit of a t*at is being honest, but at the end of the day you’re still a bit of a t*at. Parky’s point was that sort of thing is something he wouldn’t do. Alty do have a bit of class agreed.
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: Sale Holmfield on October 31, 2020, 10:45:23 PM
Premier league will continue, but will we be able to play during the latest shambles?

Do we count as "Elite*"

*Not sure Dover do with their behaviour today!
nor Hartlepool with their win at all costs philosophy ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺

Judging by tonight's annihilation that philosophy has more holes in it than Swiss cheese ☹️

Does Swiss cheese always have less than five holes then? :)
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: Hugh on November 01, 2020, 12:59:29 AM
FA said elite sport will continue, grass roots will stop so assume we will carry on

Am I right to understand, then, that Ilkeston (for example) are going from a tv cup tie in front of 400 passionate supporters (because 600 would have been too dangerous obviously) to not being allowed to play at all? There go my plans for a bit of real football then. Unless anyone fancies a kickaround. (I had a great kickaround once with some of the lads, me and Jo in "Wembley" doubles, though we were both getting a bit unfit by then tbh. Those were the days...)
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on November 01, 2020, 08:48:42 AM
That's certainly how I read it - nothing doing below National League North/South. I'm not sure if/how this affects FA Cup/Trophy. You really have to feel for South Shields in particular.
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: Inter Alty! on November 01, 2020, 09:45:56 AM
Non-elite is tier 7 & below of football pyramid ie step3 & below of non-league system...

Whereas Elite teams are top6 divisions ie Prem, Championship, Div1, Div2, Non-Lge National Div (Conference eg Alty), plus div below ie National Lge Div North/South... Hence clubs where no fans been allowed so far...

The leagues below elite system are those classed as 'non-elite' and upto now been allowed nominal crowds of circa 200-400 max eg Trafford, Atherton Colleries, Ramsbottom, etc...

It would appear govt may stop games at non-elite level - awaiting confirmation asper attached link... so nothing officially been decided yet...

HOWEVER, if stop these clubs it would be impact on FA Cup as think media said nine 'non-elite' had made 1st rd so what happens there? Kicked out Cup & opponents go through? Surely not...

Hopefully govt will let lower lge (non-elite) clubs continue to play & with small crowds so footy fans can see some football in person to help clubs & wellbeing/mental health of fans... 

Guess will be clarification probably on Monday...

Here's FA view at present after govt lockdown announcement... basically await more info before making decision about lower league football...

https://twitter.com/FA/status/1322655841934299137?s=20

https://www.thefa.com/news/2020/oct/31/covid-19-update-311020

Whereas Elite sport/football will continue...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54765522
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: Inter Alty! on November 02, 2020, 02:12:21 PM
Update... the FA & Govt had announced all FA Cup ties can go ahead including the nine matches involving 'non-elite' clubs...

See attached link below...

https://www.thefa.com/news/2020/nov/02/emirates-fa-cup-first-round-update-021120

NB the govt has still to advise if normal 'non-elite' football matches can go ahead... maybe a further anouncement later...

In meantime, both FA Trophy & FA Vase draws were still made today with dates to be confirmed at later date...

https://www.thefa.com/news/2020/nov/02/buildbase-fa-trophy-and-fa-vase-draws-021120

Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: rorysgrandad on November 02, 2020, 08:49:23 PM
It’s amazing to think that if we were where we were when Parky took over it’d be curtains down on Thursday. 😔 🙁 ☹️
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: Inter Alty! on November 02, 2020, 10:32:11 PM
Further Update to above...

Appears non-elite football (bar clubs involved in this weekend's FA Cup ties) will be stopped for a period of 28 days from Thurs as PM sadly states in below link...

Ollie Bayliss (@Ollie_Bayliss) Tweeted: BREAKING:

Boris Johnson “I bitterly regret that we have to curtail for 28 days (non-elite) football clubs”. https://t.co/UXq1rpPH3q https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/status/1323316737807437826?s=20

https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/status/1323316737807437826?s=20
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: JD on November 02, 2020, 10:38:31 PM
Just how many clubs will fold?

I fear the worst and it is tragic - so many clubs so important to towns and townsfolk!
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: Inter Alty! on November 02, 2020, 10:46:00 PM
Indeed... sadly some lower league clubs will struggle without the 200-600 max fans they had been allowed... and ultimately some could go bust... :(

Plus, lets be honest, like the first lockdown there is the possibility of it being extended extra weeks if the R number is not back below 1 and Covid deaths reducing come Dec 2nd...
 
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: rorysgrandad on November 03, 2020, 09:27:13 AM
Just how many clubs will fold?

I fear the worst and it is tragic - so many clubs so important to towns and townsfolk!
Agreed. With Alty it’s not like the real thing but with PPV and RR we still have the wreckage to cling onto.
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: Inter Alty! on November 03, 2020, 02:56:08 PM
FA Update on Non-Elite footy...

https://www.thefa.com/news/2020/nov/03/non-elite-football-statement-031120
Title: Re: Lockdown
Post by: JD on November 03, 2020, 08:43:01 PM
Might yet change as the most up do date and comprehensive studies from King College show the R rate at 1 and reducing!