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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: distancetraveller on November 12, 2022, 10:33:10 PM
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I’m all for young people watching Alty and becoming fans, but, tonight some of the younger kids just wanted to run about screaming and shouting not having any interest in the game whatsoever..
Numerous little ones fell over tripping up the steps and one day this will end up with one of them getting seriously hurt.
I’m no kill joy but I do feel a bit of parental control wouldn’t go amiss.
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I’m all for young people watching Alty and becoming fans, but, tonight some of the younger kids just wanted to run about screaming and shouting not having any interest in the game whatsoever..
Numerous little ones fell over tripping up the steps and one day this will end up with one of them getting seriously hurt.
I’m no kill joy but I do feel a bit of parental control wouldn’t go amiss.
I wasn't there today, but this is an ongoing scenario. It's good in principle to encourage kids, but in doing so their parents or guardians should be made aware that it isn't reasonable to let the kids run amok. The stewards should be more on top of this.
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Perhaps, as part of the 'development' of the spectator experience, a designated area might be created / set aside?
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I’m all for young people watching Alty and becoming fans, but, tonight some of the younger kids just wanted to run about screaming and shouting not having any interest in the game whatsoever..
Numerous little ones fell over tripping up the steps and one day this will end up with one of them getting seriously hurt.
I’m no kill joy but I do feel a bit of parental control wouldn’t go amiss.
Totally agree Ray.
I actually said, couldn’t believe how many kids tonight were just running about.
No parents in sight.
The number of times the stewards had to tell them to stop leaning on the gates.
If one had fallen through the gates and hurt themselves, God only knows.
Well done to the stewards.
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Perhaps, as part of the 'development' of the spectator experience, a designated area might be created / set aside?
Stamford Park?
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Perhaps, as part of the 'development' of the spectator experience, a designated area might be created / set aside?
Stamford Park?
Or Chester zoo
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Perhaps, as part of the 'development' of the spectator experience, a designated area might be created / set aside?
Definitely agree with this. As part of the redevelopment of the Pop Side we need to factor something in. We attract a lot of juniors & a lot of these will be the ST holders of the future. On a related note I’ve never seen the CSH as busy last night, queues in the Fanzone looked big at HT too-the club must have made a lot of cash out of last night in addition to the TV money.
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Some of the kids at the ground actually play for the Juniors boys and girls. Our two foster girls love to meet up with their team-mates from the Black Kites. They do not run about, but they do mither me for money to buy drink and chocolate at the game. They love the matchday experience, having never been to a football match before they came to us. They do actually contribute to the team and are now keen followers of the club, my younger foster daughter who plays in the under 11's has dreams of playing for the 1st team girls when she is older, or even at United or City Ladies, she is doing very well. When she came to us she had never even kicked a football.
While I acknowledge parents have a duty to keep an eye on their kids, my only restriction I put on my girls is not to go outside the ground without me. Other than that, they can go within the ground with their pals. They are generally well behaved, have had spells as ball-girls and flag wavers etc. They represent the club as supporters and players. They do their bit chanting in the main stand too, and can be heard by the players on many occasions. Some children do run around and need a little more supervision from parents maybe, but I would be more worried about a few teenagers sometimes, and the individual who threw a firework on the pitch after our equalising goal. They do more damage to the club, especially as it went into the referee's report.
Not all children dash around unsupervised, but our girls know they have to behave themselves and generally they do. If not, they would have me to answer to. A threat of not being able to go to any more games soon seems to calm them down. The children who dash around today will soon calm down as they get older and hopefully yes, they will become season ticket holders. It's when we don't get these young children in that we need to start worrying about the club and it's ongoing support. We need these young supporters to be our fans of tomorrow.
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What exactly is your collective problem with these kids? How do they bother you I'm any way?
I'm a season ticket holder and I barely notice them.
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I started watching games aged 9 with my dad, who I’m sure loved the chance to get out of the house with me and get brownie points. Although I was getting interested in football back then, mainly due to Bazooka gum cards, watching for 90 minutes was just too much for my young concentration span, after all the complexities of the game are beyond young minds, it’s all about goals and noise. Give them some slack, safety obviously matters as does parental responsibility but allow the parents some slack too.
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There were kids running around who were three or four years old at best. Prime candidates for injuring themselves on the terraces.
Talking about money to be made on barsales, it's a disgrace that fans feel the need to stop supporting the team ten minutes before halftime in order to get a drink. There must be a way of satisfying demand without asking fans to miss a chunk of the match.
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What exactly is your collective problem with these kids? How do they bother you I'm any way?
I'm a season ticket holder and I barely notice them.
The kids I was talking about were screaming & shouting which goes right through you.
I don’t understand why you needed to tell us that you are a season ticket holder.
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I’m all for young people watching Alty but I’m a kill joy.
fixed it for you
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Do one
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Just to be clear I don't object to kids running around but there is a health and safety issue. It just needs one accident and a woke parent to put the club in the council's sights again.
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What exactly is your collective problem with these kids? How do they bother you I'm any way?
I'm a season ticket holder and I barely notice them.
The kids I was talking about were screaming & shouting which goes right through you.
I don’t understand why you needed to tell us that you are a season ticket holder.
Only to say that I'm at virtually every home game and I've never noticed these issues.
Where abouts in the ground is this going on?
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I can't stand screaming and shouting at games . I like it nice and quiet . Let's make it over 18s only with keep quiet signs round the perimeter
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And thinking on it may be best to ask the players to cease communication on the pitch as well . Might trigger a migraine
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Do one
Send me to my grave when Im cross at children enjoying themselves.
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I’m all for young people watching Alty but I’m a kill joy.
fixed it for you
Correct. And I seem to remember someone even complaining about supporters walking across Golf Road after matches.
Whilst children could get slightly hurt at matches (I myself once banged my head running about at Roots Hall as a child), I would suggest that with the shallow rake of the terracing and the crush barriers now rendering a crush almost impossible, serious injury is extremely unlikely.
I might add that my friend from church decided to attend the game with his son who plays for one of the junior teams (and was perfectly well behaved). They enjoyed the match and atmosphere and plan to go again. The children near us at the front of the GRE in the second half, whilst high spirited just looked like they were having a good time. It was hardly comparable to when youths were getting in free at Colwyn Bay and causing a certain amount of aggro, for example.
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Just to be clear I don't object to kids running around but there is a health and safety issue. It just needs one accident and a woke parent to put the club in the council's sights again.
And while that was the principal point that Ray made in the opening post on this thread, I know that I'm not alone in getting brassed off with kids running around and screaming, kicking plastic cups up and down the terraces, and generally being a thorough nuisance to everybody within a 30 yard range. I'm sure some fathers bring kids to the game just because Mummy wants a bit of "me time" on Saturday afternoons. I'll take odds that less than 10% of these kids become regular supporters. When they get home they probably can't even tell Mummy if Alty won or not !
Even "organised" groups are not properly supervised. I was horrified when Ross Barrows was concussed recently, and a group of children in the main stand chanted "Get him OFF" ad nauseam with nobody in authority intervening.
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Do one
Send me to my grave when Im cross at children enjoying themselves.
Let me know when the funeral is - I'll arrange for a group of unsupervised 7 year olds to run amok during the eulogy.
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We are to understand then, that there are sometimes rowdy children at the JDS (arguably better than no children at all). There is also blasphemy, foul and abusive language, politics, and probably other things besides. Now I don't necessarily agree with some of this. Still, perhaps the words of the inimitable Frank Skinner are worth quoting: if you don't like it, move to another part of the terrace. One of the great joys of watching Altrincham is that it is always possible to stand (or sit) somewhere else (unless the government bans us of course). May I recommend that little bit of open terracing between the GRE and the pop side cover? Always seems to be sparsely populated and offers an excellent view of the game.
Speaking purely for myself, the behaviour of children at the club simply hasn't been an issue. I will leave it for others to decide what, if anything, needs to be done.
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Do one
Send me to my grave when Im cross at children enjoying themselves.
Let me know when the funeral is - I'll arrange for a group of unsupervised 7 year olds to run amok during the eulogy.
Hilarious that you seem to want the atmosphere of a funeral at our games 😂
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Just to be clear I don't object to kids running around but there is a health and safety issue. It just needs one accident and a woke parent to put the club in the council's sights again.
And while that was the principal point that Ray made in the opening post on this thread, I know that I'm not alone in getting brassed off with kids running around and screaming, kicking plastic cups up and down the terraces, and generally being a thorough nuisance to everybody within a 30 yard range. I'm sure some fathers bring kids to the game just because Mummy wants a bit of "me time" on Saturday afternoons. I'll take odds that less than 10% of these kids become regular supporters. When they get home they probably can't even tell Mummy if Alty won or not !
Maybe it’s the mum that brings the children to the game while dad has some “me time” as you put it. It is 2022 after all. Maybe mum and dad bring the children to the game and the child wants some “me time” and wants to run about. We have got serious issues if we want to stop children enjoying themselves at football matches
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Do one
Send me to my grave when Im cross at children enjoying themselves.
Let me know when the funeral is - I'll arrange for a group of unsupervised 7 year olds to run amok during the eulogy.
Hilarious that you seem to want the atmosphere of a funeral at our games 😂
Equally hilarious is the fact you have missed the point of the joke
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We are to understand then, that there are sometimes rowdy children at the JDS (arguably better than no children at all). There is also blasphemy, foul and abusive language, politics, and probably other things besides. Now I don't necessarily agree with some of this. Still, perhaps the words of the inimitable Frank Skinner are worth quoting: if you don't like it, move to another part of the terrace. One of the great joys of watching Altrincham is that it is always possible to stand (or sit) somewhere else (unless the government bans us of course). May I recommend that little bit of open terracing between the GRE and the pop side cover? Always seems to be sparsely populated and offers an excellent view of the game.
Speaking purely for myself, the behaviour of children at the club simply hasn't been an issue. I will leave it for others to decide what, if anything, needs to be done
can we get some toilets on the pop side first please ?
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This has to be one of the most classic threads ever on here and there has been a few . Let's get these kids banned asap it's not like they are the future of the club.
Could we also maybe ban older fans that used to come and have fun previously before maturing as well ?
We do need to be consistent and fair after all . I think I may have screamed a few times when my grandad first brought me 40 years ago
Add me to the list please
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Notice them far less now they’re not allowed to stand by the advertising boards smashing them to a million pieces. Long may that (not) continue.
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If we're complaining about damage to the ground or the safety of the kids then fair enough. If we're moaning about the irritation factor then that's a very slippery slope. There are all manner of irritations at a football match, let's embrace the increased interest and people coming through the doors who never bothered for years, even decades.
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I’m all for young people watching Alty but I’m a kill joy.
fixed it for you
There was about ten to twelve 9 year olds that spent the whole of the second half running around an area of the popside playing 'tig'....they were a complete pain in the arse and either need to be located in a play zone or have adults that calm it down.
Maybe they could run around amongst the singers on the Golf Rd or knock pints over in the fan zone....who would want to be a killjoy and stop the fun
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Can we do something about the decrepit old men we have that appear to come to the game and complain about strange things? If it's not our top goal scorer it's our future fans. I'm also concerned that while they are snapping their necks to stare and tut that they might lose their balance and fall over popping a hip in the process.
Honestly this forum is a cesspool. Never change everyone
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Cannot believe how many have missed the whole point of the original post.
We all want lots of kids here enjoying the experience.
We all know kids will need to be a little boisterous at times because 90 minutes is too long to concentrate.
We as adults want to be able to stand and watch a match without children continually running around amongst us for large parts of the game.
Hopefully the above not too hard to comprehend
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Can we do something about the decrepit old men we have that appear to come to the game and complain about strange things? If it's not our top goal scorer it's our future fans. I'm also concerned that while they are snapping their necks to stare and tut that they might lose their balance and fall over popping a hip in the process.
Honestly this forum is a cesspool. Never change everyone
Got to be the rudest post of the month. Another one completely missing the point of the post.
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Can we do something about the decrepit old men we have that appear to come to the game and complain about strange things? If it's not our top goal scorer it's our future fans. I'm also concerned that while they are snapping their necks to stare and tut that they might lose their balance and fall over popping a hip in the process.
Honestly this forum is a cesspool. Never change everyone
Got to be the rudest post of the month. Another one completely missing the point of the post.
I think you just missed my point, not too much of a surprise that would happen on this forum though.
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Yes, what was your point ?
Decrepit old men complaining....please read other posts from younger men 'complaining' to get some perspective.....it is a forum and I see nothing wrong in expressing an opinion about our top scorer
Popping a hip...?
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I’m all for young people watching Alty but I’m a kill joy.
fixed it for you
There was about ten to twelve 9 year olds that spent the whole of the second half running around an area of the popside playing 'tig'....they were a complete pain in the arse and either need to be located in a play zone or have adults that calm it down.
Maybe they could run around amongst the singers on the Golf Rd or knock pints over in the fan zone....who would want to be a killjoy and stop the fun
can't believe there was a game of Tig that I was not invited too. If it's hide and seek next week can you let me know ?
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Yes, what was your point ?
Decrepit old men complaining....please read other posts from younger men 'complaining' to get some perspective.....it is a forum and I see nothing wrong in expressing an opinion about our top scorer
Popping a hip...?
My point is that old people are slap bang on the other end of the spectrum and are no less irritating to some. Especially when they spend their days online complaining about children having fun.
I could have chosen to pick out women as a group, dogs as a group, away fans. The point still remains.
People seem to use this forum as a place to complain about anything they feel doesn't work for them. It's quite funny when you come on here to know more about how the team played, or the latest on player rumours, or I dunno - any football related content.
Very boring indeed having to explain myself in further detail. It also really helps show how easily triggered some of you old boys are.
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Yes, what was your point ?
Decrepit old men complaining....please read other posts from younger men 'complaining' to get some perspective.....it is a forum and I see nothing wrong in expressing an opinion about our top scorer
Popping a hip...?
My point is that old people are slap bang on the other end of the spectrum and are no less irritating to some. Especially when they spend their days online complaining about children having fun.
I could have chosen to pick out women as a group, dogs as a group, away fans. The point still remains.
People seem to use this forum as a place to complain about anything they feel doesn't work for them. It's quite funny when you come on here to know more about how the team played, or the latest on player rumours, or I dunno - any football related content.
Very boring indeed having to explain myself in further detail. It also really helps show how easily triggered some of you old boys are.
Thanks for the detailed explanation. No complaining allowed then, unless it is something you agree with or you want to read.
No further response necessary thanks
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A couple of you have made decent points about bad language in the Golf Road End too. I always have stood in the Golf Road end amongst out most ardent supporters, as I love being behind the goals when we score. I now stand in front of the CSH amongst a lot of the more middle-aged supporters, of which I am now of course, one of them. I am am used to it now, and you also benefit from being in Ryan Colclough's patch and see him dribble from close range.
I cannot consider going back to the the Golf Road End because of the language, but it is part of the game and I don't want it to stop. I am just not able to allow my foster daughters exposure to it. The girls like to go into the main stand with their teammates, and the CSH is nearby, so I am to hand if they have any problems. But I do miss the Golf Road End, and being amongst the die-hard fans when we score.
The problem seems to be with younger children aged 3-5 years. I think we lost the intended message of the original posting which is the safety aspect, there is a certain risk of kids falling over and hurting themselves. The parents of the kids may look at the club, rather than looking at themselves and their supervision (or lack of it). If there is a problem with a parent after any accident all the club need to say is 'Were you supervising them?' Children in the ground are not the club's responsibility unless there is a major safety issue. That lies with the parents first and formost. I include myself in that too with my foster daughters. I know they are safe within the ground providing they are sensible. It is not a high risk ground, it is smaller and compact and much more child friendly than MUFC or MCFC. That's why children go to Alty before United and City at very young ages. A lot of them do stay with the club also. A lot of the Golf Road end were here as kids, I was a teenager when I started here.
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Yes, what was your point ?
Decrepit old men complaining....please read other posts from younger men 'complaining' to get some perspective.....it is a forum and I see nothing wrong in expressing an opinion about our top scorer
Popping a hip...?
My point is that old people are slap bang on the other end of the spectrum and are no less irritating to some. Especially when they spend their days online complaining about children having fun.
I could have chosen to pick out women as a group, dogs as a group, away fans. The point still remains.
People seem to use this forum as a place to complain about anything they feel doesn't work for them. It's quite funny when you come on here to know more about how the team played, or the latest on player rumours, or I dunno - any football related content.
Very boring indeed having to explain myself in further detail. It also really helps show how easily triggered some of you old boys are.
Thanks for the detailed explanation. No complaining allowed then, unless it is something you agree with or you want to read.
No further response necessary thanks
Oh baby did I upset you somehow?
Maybe try complaining about it at dinner to the wife.
Complain all you like, just don't expect to not have people mocking you for it when it is something so petty as this.
After all, you took offence at what I said. And complained about kids playing ffs.
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Can we do something about the decrepit old men we have that appear to come to the game and complain about strange things? If it's not our top goal scorer it's our future fans. I'm also concerned that while they are snapping their necks to stare and tut that they might lose their balance and fall over popping a hip in the process.
Honestly this forum is a cesspool. Never change everyone
This forum is indeed, for the most part, an absolute cesspool.
Some users on here seem to be able to turn even the most positive of issues, such as young fans being on the increase, into negative vitriol.
Honestly, I've gone from reading everyday to avoiding it most of the time. Either more fans need to use it or it can close down and I doubt most would miss it.
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Can we do something about the decrepit old men we have that appear to come to the game and complain about strange things? If it's not our top goal scorer it's our future fans. I'm also concerned that while they are snapping their necks to stare and tut that they might lose their balance and fall over popping a hip in the process.
Honestly this forum is a cesspool. Never change everyone
This forum is indeed, for the most part, an absolute cesspool.
Some users on here seem to be able to turn even the most positive of issues, such as young fans being on the increase, into negative vitriol.
Honestly, I've gone from reading everyday to avoiding it most of the time. Either more fans need to use it or it can close down and I doubt most would miss it.
You're going to get difference of opinion on any forum, and it's healthy to have it. The issue on this one is that there has clearly been a decline in posts and posters over the last few years while our actual support base has grown. It also gives the impression of having quite a narrow demographic compared to those who actually follow the club.
That's not a criticism of anyone, and fair play to everyone who supports or runs here. It has its place and clearly is valued a lot by some. I also can't help but think that forums at other clubs face the same challenges. It just isn't the definitive voice of the fans or link to the club that some on here perhaps might think it is.
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Blimey this thread has caught fire !
I can understand both sides of the argument actually though being a very young minded and active 68yo i do find the kids 'activities' quite often entertaining during shall i say the 'duller' periods of the game and they dont irritate me in the slightest . But then again i am a glass full kind of a guy ( with 7 grandkids ).
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Just to respond to Bob's very fair and measured post, it is not difference of opinion that I have any issue with, it is the damaging tone of some of the topics on here that bothers me. Some fans on here would doubtless see us go back to crowds of 600 and regional, part-time football.
Of course, all is subjective and this does not apply to all posts or users.
What you say about the very narrow demographic of users on here is spot on, where as many fans have moved on to talking about Alty via other means, there will be equally as much disagreement but it is more balanced out by a wider range of views.
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I've had a change of heart, I thought it was hypocritical of me to have a go at kids, given I probably did that are their age.
However, if we want to be a professional club, theres a huge difference between being welcoming and kids running around, when they wouldn't do this at Notts county, Stockport etc
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A lot of things on this forum boil down to extremes. There are seldom any shades of grey.
Example:
If we lose three on the bounce, we're sh*t and we're going down. We then go four unbeaten and people start talking about the playoffs and the football league. There's no middle ground.
In this situation there was never an issue with kids being in and around the ground, the issue was whether parents were supervising them and helping them stay safe. As a parent myself, I can relate to this. Instead it has seemingly degenerated into two factions, people who hate kids and people who don't. It wasn't necessary for this to happen.
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Just to respond to Bob's very fair and measured post, it is not difference of opinion that I have any issue with, it is the damaging tone of some of the topics on here that bothers me. Some fans on here would doubtless see us go back to crowds of 600 and regional, part-time football.
Of course, all is subjective and this does not apply to all posts or users.
What you say about the very narrow demographic of users on here is spot on, where as many fans have moved on to talking about Alty via other means, there will be equally as much disagreement but it is more balanced out by a wider range of views.
Absolutely agree 100%
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Just to respond to Bob's very fair and measured post, it is not difference of opinion that I have any issue with, it is the damaging tone of some of the topics on here that bothers me. Some fans on here would doubtless see us go back to crowds of 600 and regional, part-time football.
Of course, all is subjective and this does not apply to all posts or users.
What you say about the very narrow demographic of users on here is spot on, where as many fans have moved on to talking about Alty via other means, there will be equally as much disagreement but it is more balanced out by a wider range of views.
please dont come on here being sensible . That's not acceptable behavior 🤠😂😉
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A lot of things on this forum boil down to extremes. There are seldom any shades of grey.
Example:
If we lose three on the bounce, we're sh*t and we're going down. We then go four unbeaten and people start talking about the playoffs and the football league. There's no middle ground.
In this situation there was never an issue with kids being in and around the ground, the issue was whether parents were supervising them and helping them stay safe. As a parent myself, I can relate to this. Instead it has seemingly degenerated into two factions, people who hate kids and people who don't. It wasn't necessary for this to happen.
Disagree completely. Please read all the posts that have been critical of the behaviour of kids. Not one has given the impression that they hate kids...in fact they mostly welcome kids.....but also would like to enjoy the game more by not having them just run around all game. It is that simple.....there are no extremes of kids vs no kids. As Hashtag says, doubt it would be allowed at some of the ex league clubs with ambition to return.
As for Amsterdam. Words fail me....just read my posts carefully and in a measured way will you.
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A lot of things on this forum boil down to extremes. There are seldom any shades of grey.
Example:
If we lose three on the bounce, we're sh*t and we're going down. We then go four unbeaten and people start talking about the playoffs and the football league. There's no middle ground.
In this situation there was never an issue with kids being in and around the ground, the issue was whether parents were supervising them and helping them stay safe. As a parent myself, I can relate to this. Instead it has seemingly degenerated into two factions, people who hate kids and people who don't. It wasn't necessary for this to happen.
Disagree completely. Please read all the posts that have been critical of the behaviour of kids. Not one has given the impression that they hate kids...in fact they mostly welcome kids.....but also would like to enjoy the game more by not having them just run around all game. It is that simple.....there are no extremes of kids vs no kids. As Hashtag says, doubt it would be allowed at some of the ex league clubs with ambition to return.
As for Amsterdam. Words fail me....just read my posts carefully and in a measured way will you.
This please folks.
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We are to understand then, that there are sometimes rowdy children at the JDS (arguably better than no children at all). There is also blasphemy, foul and abusive language, politics, and probably other things besides. Now I don't necessarily agree with some of this. Still, perhaps the words of the inimitable Frank Skinner are worth quoting: if you don't like it, move to another part of the terrace. One of the great joys of watching Altrincham is that it is always possible to stand (or sit) somewhere else (unless the government bans us of course). May I recommend that little bit of open terracing between the GRE and the pop side cover? Always seems to be sparsely populated and offers an excellent view of the game.
Speaking purely for myself, the behaviour of children at the club simply hasn't been an issue. I will leave it for others to decide what, if anything, needs to be done
can we get some toilets on the pop side first please ?
Bring back the trough toilets - complete with period detail and smells! Can we start a petition?
While we're at it, could we use the old pop side snack bar for the benefit of supporters in some capacity? Surely a shed could be put up for the stewards in the now redundant area near the new flats and allotments behind the pop side/Chequers End corner?
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Can we do something about the decrepit old men we have that appear to come to the game and complain about strange things? If it's not our top goal scorer it's our future fans. I'm also concerned that while they are snapping their necks to stare and tut that they might lose their balance and fall over popping a hip in the process.
Honestly this forum is a cesspool. Never change everyone
This forum is indeed, for the most part, an absolute cesspool.
Some users on here seem to be able to turn even the most positive of issues, such as young fans being on the increase, into negative vitriol.
Honestly, I've gone from reading everyday to avoiding it most of the time. Either more fans need to use it or it can close down and I doubt most would miss it.
To be fair, it's a lot better now we no longer have trolls from clubs like Runcorn and Southport using it. And it can be useful for updates on various issues (traffic issues for away games and so on).
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Just to respond to Bob's very fair and measured post, it is not difference of opinion that I have any issue with, it is the damaging tone of some of the topics on here that bothers me. Some fans on here would doubtless see us go back to crowds of 600 and regional, part-time football.
Of course, all is subjective and this does not apply to all posts or users.
What you say about the very narrow demographic of users on here is spot on, where as many fans have moved on to talking about Alty via other means, there will be equally as much disagreement but it is more balanced out by a wider range of views.
As a matter of fact, I would quite like regional football if it was League Two North (actually League One North like the old 3rd division North) . With increasing costs, and travel not getting any quicker (apart from the M6 Toll), it is surely worth looking at.
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A lot of things on this forum boil down to extremes. There are seldom any shades of grey.
Example:
If we lose three on the bounce, we're sh*t and we're going down. We then go four unbeaten and people start talking about the playoffs and the football league. There's no middle ground.
In this situation there was never an issue with kids being in and around the ground, the issue was whether parents were supervising them and helping them stay safe. As a parent myself, I can relate to this. Instead it has seemingly degenerated into two factions, people who hate kids and people who don't. It wasn't necessary for this to happen.
Disagree completely. Please read all the posts that have been critical of the behaviour of kids. Not one has given the impression that they hate kids...in fact they mostly welcome kids.....but also would like to enjoy the game more by not having them just run around all game. It is that simple.....there are no extremes of kids vs no kids. As Hashtag says, doubt it would be allowed at some of the ex league clubs with ambition to return.
As for Amsterdam. Words fail me....just read my posts carefully and in a measured way will you.
I seem to remember Whitchurch Alport have a children's play area. Surely something of the sort could be arranged. Perhaps part of the trouble is that areas that used to serve this function are now occupied by the CSH and fan zone. Obviously positive developments but it only leaves the stands to run about in.
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From reading this fascinating thread, it occurs to me that the board's next project should comprise the construction of a crèche.
Amsterdam Alty sounds the ideal candidate to entertain all of the ebullient poppets now attending the JDS, as I suspect that he is a dab hand at making balloon animals.
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From reading this fascinating thread, it occurs to me that the board's next project should comprise the construction of a crèche.
Amsterdam Alty sounds the ideal candidate to entertain all of the ebullient poppets now attending the JDS, as I suspect that he is a dab hand at making balloon animals.
it would be that late in it's opening the intended inhabitants would be parents themselves ...🤔🤔😂😂
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Bring back the Birch (not Dennis or David) for the young whippersnappers.
In all honesty, I think its great to see the next generations come through, just keep away from the pop side ;)
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Just about all the vitriolic stuff being complained about is words being put in other peoples’ mouths. Often by the people complaining about the amount of vitriol on the forum!
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Surely all that metal paraphernalia on the pop side could be utilised as cages for them.