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MESSAGE FROM THE BOARD ABOUT MATT AND ROBBIE
Altrincham FC Press & Media Officer, John Edwards, writes...
"After due consideration, the Board of Altrincham Football Club have concluded a fresh start is required for next season and decided, therefore, not to retain Matt Doughty and Robbie Lawton as manager and assistant-manager.
Both Matt and Robbie have been made aware of the decision, and the club thanks them for their efforts after they were appointed in exceptionally difficult circumstances, initially in a caretaker capacity at the start of December, then for the rest of the season at the turn of the year.
While performances showed a marked improvement, results unfortunately failed to keep pace, and it was felt the prudent course of action would be to seek a more experienced manager to provide stability and know-how for what will be one of the most critical seasons in the club's history.
It was a decision that was not taken lightly, given the way Matt and Robbie replicated the same drive and determination they always showed as Altrincham players, but there was general consent among the board that next season was too important for anything to be left to chance and that a candidate with a record of success was needed to spearhead a push for promotion.
The process of identifying and installing that candidate is well advanced, and the club hope to be in a position to announce an appointment in the next few days. In the meantime, everyone at The J.Davidson Stadium wishes Matt and Robbie all the very best in their future careers".
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The right decision. Thanks for the effort Matt and Robbie and best of luck in your future careers.
Looking forward to seeing who our new manager will be now!
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Right decision, harsh as it is. The cycle needed breaking.
Massive decision coming up
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Some good news at last! Let's hope the board make the right appointment now!
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Probably not announced who the new man is because his current team is in the play-offs..
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Probably not announced who the new man is because his current team is in the play-offs..
Hopefully.
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Agree with all the above. Very harsh, but ultimately the right decision. I really wish both Robbie and Matt all the best for the future and hope they have another crack at management.
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Great to see MD replying to Twitter replies under the club's most recent tweet. I look forward to some robust and respectful debate.
t was better than 2 experienced and people who have won leagues. We took over a team who had 5 points????
Don't forget that they had the worst morale of any dressing room since the Norman Conquest!
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Wrong time for them at Alty. We needed crisis management, they did a reasonable job but way off convincing.
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The right decision. Thanks for the effort Matt and Robbie and best of luck in your future careers.
Looking forward to seeing who our new manager will be now!
Perfectly put
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Great to see MD replying to Twitter replies under the club's most recent tweet. I look forward to some robust and respectful debate.
t was better than 2 experienced and people who have won leagues. We took over a team who had 5 points????
Don't forget that they had the worst morale of any dressing room since the Norman Conquest!
Well, that's all rather unprofessional on his part.
He should ask Robbie Lawton to give him some lessons in how to conduct yourself in public.
And we had already accumulated seven points when he took over as manager....!
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Quite so Cult.
I still hope that Robbie can be found a role in whatever set up we end up with.
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Thanks for all your efforts in what was a Herculean ask
We can not play leadership roulette next year .
Whoever we bring in has to see the season out regardless of results
This continually change of leadership is crippling us
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The right decision on balance. Good Luck to Matt and Robbie for the future. Thanks for trying to put things right.
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Probably not announced who the new man is because his current team is in the play-offs..
very much doubt that
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Right decision, harsh as it is. The cycle needed breaking.
Why is it harsh? Matt Doughty was garbage and a totally unprofessional embarrassment to the club - you only have to see his tweets today to see this
Good riddance to bad rubbish
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Right decision, harsh as it is. The cycle needed breaking.
Why is it harsh? Matt Doughty was garbage and a totally unprofessional embarrassment to the club - you only have to see his tweets today to see this
Good riddance to bad rubbish
Because performances had improved and Lawton was both honest and articulate
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Being honest and articulate are the not the key requirements of a football manager. Theyve had a 5 month long interview and failed dismally.
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Right decision, harsh as it is. The cycle needed breaking.
Why is it harsh? Matt Doughty was garbage and a totally unprofessional embarrassment to the club - you only have to see his tweets today to see this
Good riddance to bad rubbish
Because performances had improved and Lawton was both honest and articulate
2 out of 10 is an improvement on 1 out of 10. A cold is better than the flu. It just wasn't good enough and they had enough time to do better. They didn't. Thank you both for trying but goodbye
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Right decision, harsh as it is. The cycle needed breaking.
Why is it harsh? Matt Doughty was garbage and a totally unprofessional embarrassment to the club - you only have to see his tweets today to see this
Good riddance to bad rubbish
Well said!!
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Right decision, harsh as it is. The cycle needed breaking.
Why is it harsh? Matt Doughty was garbage and a totally unprofessional embarrassment to the club - you only have to see his tweets today to see this
Good riddance to bad rubbish
Because performances had improved and Lawton was both honest and articulate
2 out of 10 is an improvement on 1 out of 10. A cold is better than the flu. It just wasn't good enough and they had enough time to do better. They didn't. Thank you both for trying but goodbye
Very well put!!
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Yep, results weren't good. Results weren't good under Neil Toldon, Neil Young or Jim Harvey. Difference is that Robbie seemed to understand where the problems lay and appreciated the feelings of the fans. Something that the others, including our chairman have failed to do. I'm not worried about Matt going, but I feel we might have missed a trick with Robbie.
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Being honest and articulate are the not the key requirements of a football manager. Theyve had a 5 month long interview and failed dismally.
I never said he should be manager
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Being honest and articulate are the not the key requirements of a football manager. Theyve had a 5 month long interview and failed dismally.
Being honest is a requirement in any job.
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Some of the players that have "graced" this club over the last 12 months have been a disgrace to this club
We now need hungry lads who want to play here and give 100% every game
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Yep, results weren't good. Results weren't good under Neil Toldon, Neil Young or Jim Harvey. Difference is that Robbie seemed to understand where the problems lay and appreciated the feelings of the fans. Something that the others, including our chairman have failed to do. I'm not worried about Matt going, but I feel we might have missed a trick with Robbie.
I'm sure we'll get over it.
The pair of them got us relegated which ever way you look at it. Are we a serious force in non league football or not? If we ever want to be again it's about time from top to bottom this club stopped settling for mediocrity. They did eff all in reality. If we want to be bang average forever give them the job and expect Corby away to be a tough fixture. Not for me thanks, I want a winner who makes us believe we'll steamroller the league. Why would we settle for less at this stage?
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Yep, results weren't good. Results weren't good under Neil Toldon, Neil Young or Jim Harvey. Difference is that Robbie seemed to understand where the problems lay and appreciated the feelings of the fans. Something that the others, including our chairman have failed to do. I'm not worried about Matt going, but I feel we might have missed a trick with Robbie.
I'm sure we'll get over it.
The pair of them got us relegated which ever way you look at it. Are we a serious force in non league football or not? If we ever want to be again it's about time from top to bottom this club stopped settling for mediocrity. They did eff all in reality. If we want to be bang average forever give them the job and expect Corby away to be a tough fixture. Not for me thanks, I want a winner who makes us believe we'll steamroller the league. Why would we settle for less at this stage?
I'd love to be a serious force in non league again, but do you honestly believe that GR will appoint a winner that will assemble a squad that will steam roller the league below? Not a chance. When a club is in total free fall like ours, then it takes time to stop. Progress will be slow. Very slow.
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I have sympathy with Matt and Robbie but there absolutely had to be a change of management.
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Doughty & Lawton's record in charge of Altrincham FC (league games only):
Played: 22;
Won: 3;
Drawn: 5;
Lost: 14;
Goals scored: 18;
Goals conceded: 40;
Points gained: 14 out of a possible total of 66.
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Didn't really know MD but I thought Robbie Lawton was a good coach and yes he did speak well. I wouldn't mind him getting some sort of coaching role in the new setup but that will be up to the new manager to want him, nobody else..
We have to get the next person right or we could be having this conversation again in 12 months time.
It is certainly no Gimme. that we will get out of the Glue league at the first attempt.
I always wanted to see a covered terrace in the away end but I would now put that on the back burner as there wont be many people in there to justify it now.
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Doughty & Lawton's record in charge of Altrincham FC:
Played: 22;
Won: 3;
Drawn: 5;
Lost: 14;
Goals scored: 18;
Goals conceded: 40;
Points gained: 14 out of a possible total of 66.
Nuff said.
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Doughty & Lawton's record in charge of Altrincham FC:
Played: 22;
Won: 3;
Drawn: 5;
Lost: 14;
Goals scored: 18;
Goals conceded: 40;
Points gained: 14 out of a possible total of 66.
Yesterday against a very poor Alfreton summed it up for me. Not so much "neither side deserved to lose" as "both sides deserved to lose".
When I stopped watching in October, we probably rated 1 out 10. Yes, we're improving, but I'd be generous at 3 out of 10. Way to go......
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Phil Parkinson rumoured to be the new Manager according to Twitter
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The lad from Bradford? Really?
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The lad from Bradford? Really?
Nantwich manager
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The lad from Bradford? Really?
Nantwich manager
Doh!!!
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Phil Parkinson rumoured to be the new Manager according to Twitter
He's involved in the play offs, Carden seems more likely ?
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Paul Carden was rumoured last night from a source from within the club - and three times that rumour was deleted off this forum by one of the administrators???
Somethings going on here
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Paul.carden didnt apply
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Paul.carden didnt apply
Tapped up!!!
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Paul.carden didnt apply
Tapped up!!!
...but enough of his sexual habits
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Paul.carden didnt apply
the plot thickens???
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Parky! Happy with that
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Paul.carden didnt apply
the plot thickens???
Unlike my gravy tonight.
1/10 for effort.
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Phil Parkinson rumoured to be the new Manager according to Twitter
Any links??
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Phil Parkinson rumoured to be the new Manager according to Twitter
Any links??
www.twitter.com
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Maybe Ryan Brooke and Joe Mwsaile will follow him if he comes
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Phil Parkinson rumoured to be the new Manager according to Twitter
Any links??
www.twitter.com
That just takes you to the twitter site,nothing on Alty or Phil Parkinson.
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Maybe Ryan Brooke and Joe Mwsaile will follow him if he comes
If we re sign Ryan Brooke things are worse than I originally thought!
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Can he get Fabs Bassy back?
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Parkinson. Totally underwhelmed.
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Parkinson. Totally underwhelmed.
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Who were hoping for?
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Pep Guardiola might be unexpectedly free.......
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Parkinson. Totally underwhelmed.
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Who were hoping for?
Gary Brabin.
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Pep Guardiola might be unexpectedly free.......
Does he know the way to Barwell?
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Parkinson. Totally underwhelmed.
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Who were hoping for?
Gary Brabin.
Is he with a club?
Either way that's a good call.
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Parkinson. Totally underwhelmed.
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Who were hoping for?
Gary Brabin.
Is he with a club?
Either way that's a good call.
Left Tranmere last year. David Flitcroft ex Bury manager and Paul Dickov were also local out of work managers that may or may not have been interested. Let's hope Parky is the business.
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What a strange couple of hours. From the reaction on social media you'd think the majority of our fanbase is located in Warrington. Its the correct decision to let Matt and Robbie go, as has been noted elsewhere the results haven't justified a permanent appointment. This is without taking into account the embarrasing reaction on twitter and facebook and the apparent 'outing' of our new manager by associates of MD.
If the twitter rumours are true and the new manager does turn out to be Nantwich's Phil Parkinson then Nantwich really need to be getting promoted this week if this is to be a credible appointment. If they don't then the statement issued today by the board would seem odd and certainly in my view open themselves up to further.criticism as they've stated they want a manager with experience and a track record of success.
Yet Phil Parkinson (and i'm not intentionally trying to criticise an appointment before its even been made, just observations) is only 36 and barring a decent FA Trophy run has no track record of success either as a player or manager unless he leads them to promotion in the next week or so.
Time will tell of course. If it is Phil Parkinson then for all of our sakes we need him to be a success.
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It is a results driven business and unfortunately Matt and Robbie have been unable to deliver the required results - often against poor opposition. There is no way any board could appoint them and they must know it
I just cannot work it out though. The players we have - on paper - should have taken a poor side like Alfreton to the cleaners and yet second half we just could not score / wasted several good chances. Alfreton were the better side in the first half.
Who would have thought we would end the season on less than 25 points in last place with the worst goal difference in the league. You cannot make it up.
Shame though - I would have liked to see things work out for Robbie Lawton.
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A typically undignified exit from buzz and his mrs who seems to think its our loss .....
All the best matt and robbie....
Looming forward now to a new era...
Im guessing our best players will now leave in droves in protest?? 😁
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Parkinson. Totally underwhelmed.
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Who were hoping for?
Gary Brabin.
Is he with a club?
Either way that's a good call.
Left Tranmere last year. David Flitcroft ex Bury manager and Paul Dickov were also local out of work managers that may or may not have been interested. Let's hope Parky is the business.
We wouldn't want Flitcroft, unless we want to use another 50 players next season...
Correct decision has been made to let MD go, I've never really been a fan of his social media (not very 'manager-like'), and his reaction since has proven it's the correct decision. Doesn't detract from the services he gave us as a player (and a manager), I'm hoping he remembers that (but I doubt he will, given the way he seems to be).
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Andy Morris on from Connahs Quay could be an outsider ?
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Perhaps MD is not being very gracious about being let go as he was probably previously promised the job by GR?
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
Also, I do think the rejection of MD and RL as your new management is rather harsh, as they inherited absolute garbage, what results did you all expect them to get with garbage?
New managers with no previous affiliation to Alty is much more of a gamble to me. You have all got what you wanted though, and in return GR will be banking on sentiment against him softening and allowing him to stay on, as I suspect has always been the plan.
You are all being played, to me.
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Disagree with most of this but the last sentence
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We know that they inherited dross. Absolute dross. However that still sets a benchmark, a very low one, for them to be judged against. The stats tell one part of the story and the dreadful performances show another part of it. I am not a twitter user so am excluding that here, I am talking about the footballing aspects of the roles. Now look at where the club is going, the Evo stick league, mostly unknown waters for us and we need a manager who knows their way around that level. The previous management team did not meet the criteria. It's as simple as that. I've done enough recruitment to know that you recruit against the criteria required of the role and what the applicants have to meet them.
I wish them both well, I hope they go on to become great managers, Alty is not the right club, and this is not the right time for them to have stayed.
I also think Mr. Rowley will go by the start of next season.
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Being less sh*t than the previous incumbents is not a good enough reason to be given the job permanently. Our results were still very poor for the remainder of the season. He was also assistant to two of the previous three managers. I would therefore say he was given ample opportunity to prove his credentials, but came up well short of what is required. His behaviour (and that of his entourage) since yesterday has also not shown him in a very good light.
Time to move on and turn this club around.
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Time to move on and turn this club around.
Bang on.
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We know that they inherited dross. Absolute dross. However that still sets a benchmark, a very low one, for them to be judged against. The stats tell one part of the story and the dreadful performances show another part of it. I am not a twitter user so am excluding that here, I am talking about the footballing aspects of the roles. Now look at where the club is going, the Evo stick league, mostly unknown waters for us and we need a manager who knows their way around that level. The previous management team did not meet the criteria. It's as simple as that. I've done enough recruitment to know that you recruit against the criteria required of the role and what the applicants have to meet them.
I wish them both well, I hope they go on to become great managers, Alty is not the right club, and this is not the right time for them to have stayed.
I also think Mr. Rowley will go by the start of next season.
This needs to happen to appease a lot of fans.
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We have been asked to be patient with regards the leadership situation. Things are allegedly in the pipeline, which is good enough for me. With regards the manager. I really hope it's someone special, but I'll get behind whoever is chosen (though I am still a little wary it is GR making the call.
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Let's see what happens in May at the board meeting. I presume talks with the third party investors are ongoing
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They may even have some say in the managerial appointment for all we know.
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They may even have some say in the managerial appointment for all we know.
They may not even exist for all we know.
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I bloody hope they do!
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Perhaps MD is not being very gracious about being let go as he was probably previously promised the job by GR?
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
Also, I do think the rejection of MD and RL as your new management is rather harsh, as they inherited absolute garbage, what results did you all expect them to get with garbage?
New managers with no previous affiliation to Alty is much more of a gamble to me. You have all got what you wanted though, and in return GR will be banking on sentiment against him softening and allowing him to stay on, as I suspect has always been the plan.
You are all being played, to me.
I agree with that
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Players just arriving at the ground (Moss Lane) now. I wonder if it is to meet the new manager?
They are in their club tracksuits so maybe they will do a btit of training, warm up, practice to show him what they can do?
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Players just arriving at the ground (Moss Lane) now. I wonder if it is to meet the new manager?
They are in their club tracksuits so maybe they will do a btit of training, warm up, practice to show him what they can do?
RESERVES AT THE JDS
On Monday night (24th) at 7.45pm, the Reserves play Congleton Vale at the J Davidson Stadium, Moss Lane, and entry is free of charge. The Reserves drew 3-3 at home to Malpas on Saturday.
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It's a sad state of how far we have fallen that some could even make a case for him to be manager. We've forgotten what good performances are and some of the adjectives used to describe play when we hit the heights of average were verging on propaganda. They have been badly let down by players though, some on damn good money as well which much be very frustrating for them.
It's nothing personal on Matt and Robbie who have clearly worked damn hard but the time is wrong. You can't take those stats into next season and start with any sort of optimism. A draw at home on the opening day and a 2-1 defeat away at some outpost on the Tuesday and we start the whole thing over again.
He'd be best keeping his dignity, having a break and giving someone good service next year with a fresh start.
As for the new manager I think we have to look a bit deeper than "what have they won". All these guys interviewed will have done a presentation on what they want to do, how they want to play, thoughts on youth and reserves etc and contacts etc. Their conduct in the interview and their demands are another factor. If we can catch a manager on the way up with the right ideas then we can be a force in that league I am sure of it if we can unite people and pull together.
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The level Rowley has took us we can't really ask for a manager who has won anything,I'm not sure I can suggest a manager because I know nothing of football at this level iv never payed much attention as I didn't think Alty would be so low.
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Along with, what seems, the majority expressing views on here, I agree that appointing MD as manager would have been unthinkable. If we are to enter next season with any sense of optimism a new appointee is essential. The fairness or otherwise of this is open to debate given what Matt and Robbie were asked to take on, but I think that the modest improvement that was seen initially was not enough to break the 'culture of losing' that seems to have become entrenched among the current cohort. I'm disappointed that RL will probably not remain on the staff as he seemed to offer a more realistic and composed view than MD, I lean firmly towards thinking that, in the future, Robbie could be a real asset to the club. At present we all have to hope that whoever the incoming manager is, he gets it right from the outset and builds momentum from the off.
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It's a sad state of how far we have fallen that some could even make a case for him to be manager. We've forgotten what good performances are and some of the adjectives used to describe play when we hit the heights of average were verging on propaganda. They have been badly let down by players though, some on damn good money as well which much be very frustrating for them.
As much as Matt Doughty has been let down by the players on the pitch, I think he has equally let himself down by his own conduct off the pitch at times.
I was never impressed with the way he tried to carry favour when he first came in by publicly distancing himself from Jim Harvey and slagging him off. He might have been right or he might not have been, but as an ex-assistant you don’t sit and slag your ex-boss the minute he’s out the door and you have his job.
He then made every interview he did as manager all about Matt Doughty. It’s been like watching/reading his own personal diary for the past 5 months. No-one wants to hear how fantastic/improved we have been after another regulation 2-0 defeat, and that the lads are all playing for the manager. I don’t want to hear how good they are in training (every week!) for him, and how much effort they are putting in. For him. Funnily enough, what I actually want to hear is that they are as sh*t on a Thursday night as they are on a Saturday afternoon. Perversely, I would have found that more reassuring at times.
His social media conduct has hardly been befitting of a paid football manager either. In fact it’s been downright embarrassing at times. That includes his weird mates who keep popping up and telling everyone what a great lad he is and how he definitely needs to be our manager next season.
And publicly slagging off the judgement of the board (get to the back of the queue…!) when they opened up the job to applicants, despite his abysmal points return? Seriously? Did he really think that was ever going to help his job prospects?
The childish outburst on Twitter yesterday said it all really.
All that said, we can only hope the new manager has as much enthusiasm for the football club as Matt Doughty clearly does, and puts in half the effort that Matt has, and holds the job of ‘Altrincham manager’ in such high esteem. We will have a much better chance of success for next season if he does.
As for the new manager I think we have to look a bit deeper than "what have they won". All these guys interviewed will have done a presentation on what they want to do, how they want to play, thoughts on youth and reserves etc and contacts etc. Their conduct in the interview and their demands are another factor. If we can catch a manager on the way up with the right ideas then we can be a force in that league I am sure of it if we can unite people and pull together.
Yes, I agree. I actually think it’s a decent enough appointment (if the twitter announcements are true), although along with everyone else that’s not the first time I’ve thought that in the past 12 months and so we shouldn’t be surprised if the reception appears ‘lukewarm’ this time round.
Maybe it’s just me, but when we make the announcement (I mean the proper one later this week, not the one from Matt Doughty’s lot on Twitter) I would like to see him described as a “young up-and-coming manager with an array of local contacts and who knows the level” rather than us exaggerating or inventing past achievements.
As for uniting people, I think what happens off the pitch might have more of an influence on that than who the manager is, or a few early wins against Barwell, Grantham and Coalville. But we’ll see I suppose.
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Does anyone know who is taking the team at Tamworth on Saturday? Are Matt and Robbie seeing the season through, or have they left with immediate effect?
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I would hazzard guess its Gary Jones and Densmore
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Does anyone know who is taking the team at Tamworth on Saturday? Are Matt and Robbie seeing the season through, or have they left with immediate effect?
No need for MD or RL to be there.
Technically speaking we have yet another manager!
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I would hazzard guess its Gary Jones and Densmore
As Gary Jones was brought in as a player and appointed as a coach by Matt Doughty, he might feel that it would not be appropriate to run the team on Saturday in the circumstances. However, playoff results may mean that a new permanent manager becomes available earlier than expected.
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I would hazzard guess its Gary Jones and Densmore
As Gary Jones was brought in as a player and appointed as a coach by Matt Doughty, he might feel that it would not be appropriate to run the team on Saturday in the circumstances. However, playoff results may mean that a new permanent manager becomes available earlier than expected.
Isn't he still Southport's player anyway ?
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Does anyone know who is taking the team at Tamworth on Saturday? Are Matt and Robbie seeing the season through, or have they left with immediate effect?
Lets hope so
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Does anyone know who is taking the team at Tamworth on Saturday? Are Matt and Robbie seeing the season through, or have they left with immediate effect?
I'll do it
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Does anyone know who is taking the team at Tamworth on Saturday? Are Matt and Robbie seeing the season through, or have they left with immediate effect?
I'll do it
Is this another attempt to get up close and personal with a certain player ?
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I would hazzard guess its Gary Jones and Densmore
As Gary Jones was brought in as a player and appointed as a coach by Matt Doughty, he might feel that it would not be appropriate to run the team on Saturday in the circumstances. However, playoff results may mean that a new permanent manager becomes available earlier than expected.
Fair point. If Doughty has been told the right man, then you would perhaps expect him to be free by Saturday. But even so, I'd prefer to draw a fresh line under this season, on the pitch, after Saturday and not have him in any way associated with the current shambles.
I'm really hoping they win tonight and he will be otherwise engaged on Saturday. The less of this lot we see again next season the better, and the last thing we need right now is people like James Lawrie suddenly looking like Messi in front of a new manager at Tamworth.
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the last thing we need right now is people like James Lawrie suddenly looking like Messi in front of a new manager at Tamworth.
There's a better than even chance your wish will be granted
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Players just arriving at the ground (Moss Lane) now. I wonder if it is to meet the new manager?
They are in their club tracksuits so maybe they will do a btit of training, warm up, practice to show him what they can do?
RESERVES AT THE JDS
On Monday night (24th) at 7.45pm, the Reserves play Congleton Vale at the J Davidson Stadium, Moss Lane, and entry is free of charge. The Reserves drew 3-3 at home to Malpas on Saturday.
Thank you
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Nantwich's match report advises that Phil Parkinson missed the playoff game due to "work commitments".
Unless his gaffer is rather cruel, I'd suggest that is the biggest indicator yet that they have asked him not to take the team and he is coming to us.
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Nantwich's match report advises that Phil Parkinson missed the playoff game due to "work commitments".
Unless his gaffer is rather cruel, I'd suggest that is the biggest indicator yet that they have asked him not to take the team and he is coming to us.
Cannot argue with that. Nantwich will rightly feel pissed off.
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Nantwich's match report advises that Phil Parkinson missed the playoff game due to "work commitments".
Unless his gaffer is rather cruel, I'd suggest that is the biggest indicator yet that they have asked him not to take the team and he is coming to us.
I think you're probably right mate.
It also begs the question, who is going to be leading us out on Saturday?
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Nantwich's match report advises that Phil Parkinson missed the playoff game due to "work commitments".
Unless his gaffer is rather cruel, I'd suggest that is the biggest indicator yet that they have asked him not to take the team and he is coming to us.
I think you're probably right mate.
It also begs the question, who is going to be leading us out on Saturday?
For me there is nothing to gain to from the new manager doing that on Saturday if he is appointed this week. Let Dens and Moult do it, he should watch on.
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The Nantwich manager would be a decent choice hope it's him
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What a sad state of affairs. If it's him, it shouldn't have happened like this.
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What a sad state of affairs. If it's him, it shouldn't have happened like this.
It shouldn't have, but I'm afraid that, yet again, it's that down side to social media that I so despise.
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What a sad state of affairs. If it's him, it shouldn't have happened like this.
It shouldn't have, but I'm afraid that, yet again, it's that down side to social media that I so despise.
There are plenty of measures that could, and should have been taken to ensure it didn't have a chance of ending up on social media in the first place.
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Nantwich's match report advises that Phil Parkinson missed the playoff game due to "work commitments".
Unless his gaffer is rather cruel, I'd suggest that is the biggest indicator yet that they have asked him not to take the team and he is coming to us.
I think you're probably right mate.
It also begs the question, who is going to be leading us out on Saturday?
I reckon Graham Rowley should lead the team out on Saturday, then at 5.00pm announce his resignation from the Chairmanship.
Then at least the worst two seasons in recent history will have a satisfactory conclusion for a lot of fans..
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I'd hope the new manager would watch Saturday's game, watch it and weep. It's absolutely vital that he sees firsthand how dreadful our team is, but I wouldn't want him in charge - that just wouldn't be fair. What I want him to be doing is listing all the best players in Evostik and getting on the blower to them.
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I'd hope the new manager would watch Saturday's game, watch it and weep. It's absolutely vital that he sees firsthand how dreadful our team is, but I wouldn't want him in charge - that just wouldn't be fair. What I want him to be doing is listing all the best players in Evostik and getting on the blower to them.
Should be looking to speak to players in the leagues above also, as there are always players looking to drop a few levels for whatever reason. This is one potential problem with appointing a manager who doesn't have a great deal of experience managing in non league above the level he is currently at. It's all good and well knowing the best players in the Evostick but I think we need to have bigger ideas if we want to bounce back up straight away. To build a squad of just the best Evostick players would be a gamble IMO (and that's presuming they would actually want to come).
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The trouble is, you can't hire somebody who ticks every box. You either go for a big name who perhaps has little idea of the level we'll be entering, or you hire somebody who knows the new level but perhaps not alot higher.
I do basically agree with what you are saying though. Suffice to say, a lot of new players are needed.
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I'd hope the new manager would watch Saturday's game, watch it and weep. It's absolutely vital that he sees firsthand how dreadful our team is, but I wouldn't want him in charge - that just wouldn't be fair. What I want him to be doing is listing all the best players in Evostik and getting on the blower to them.
If we can afford to if the investment happens we should be looking at players good enough for national north play off places , although he wouldn't come back players of the calibre of Scott Leathet
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I'm sure Scott is no different from any other player in that he'll go wherever he gets paid the most. Much will depend on the level of investment we have been told about.
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I'm sure Scott is no different from any other player in that he'll go wherever he gets paid the most. Much will depend on the level of investment we have been told about.
If it was a decent level of investment we wouldn't be taking the Nantwich manager on.
No disrespect to the guy but money talks and if we had any we would be attracting a bigger name.
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I'm sure Scott is no different from any other player in that he'll go wherever he gets paid the most. Much will depend on the level of investment we have been told about.
If it was a decent level of investment we wouldn't be taking the Nantwich manager on.
No disrespect to the guy but money talks and if we had any we would be attracting a bigger name.
The deal maybe loaded with a £20000 bonus for promotion. I am guessing at a number but the principle remains a possibility.
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I'm sure Scott is no different from any other player in that he'll go wherever he gets paid the most. Much will depend on the level of investment we have been told about.
If it was a decent level of investment we wouldn't be taking the Nantwich manager on.
No disrespect to the guy but money talks and if we had any we would be attracting a bigger name.
The deal maybe loaded with a £20000 bonus for promotion. I am guessing at a number but the principle remains a possibility.
Very true but so is the fact that if my Aunty had a d*ck she'd be my Uncle.
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I'm sure Scott is no different from any other player in that he'll go wherever he gets paid the most. Much will depend on the level of investment we have been told about.
If it was a decent level of investment we wouldn't be taking the Nantwich manager on.
No disrespect to the guy but money talks and if we had any we would be attracting a bigger name.
The deal maybe loaded with a £20000 bonus for promotion. I am guessing at a number but the principle remains a possibility.
Very true but so is the fact that if my Aunty had a d*ck she'd be my Uncle.
I dare say there are plenty of Alty fans who are on a performance related bonus scheme at work. Uncles and Aunties included.
We just don't know what the deal is, but I don't believe we can read into how big this investment (should it actually happen) is on the appointment of a particular bloke as manager.
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I'm sure Scott is no different from any other player in that he'll go wherever he gets paid the most. Much will depend on the level of investment we have been told about.
If it was a decent level of investment we wouldn't be taking the Nantwich manager on.
No disrespect to the guy but money talks and if we had any we would be attracting a bigger name.
The deal maybe loaded with a £20000 bonus for promotion. I am guessing at a number but the principle remains a possibility.
Very true but so is the fact that if my Aunty had a d*ck she'd be my Uncle.
This guys a solid performer in the NPL with a sh*t budget. If he played the interview right he'd be a lead favourite regardless of how much money we had.
If the investment coming in was really significant, as in changing the clubs long term outlook, we'd have heard more rumours by now.
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Id be very surprised if by the start of next season we have new major investment and a new chairman. I don't think GR has any intention of leaving, and I believe the "investment" will be more on scale with the new perimeter fencing news. Id love to be wrong though.
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I find it amusing that doubt is creeping in potentially about a manager that's not even been officially announced yet
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I find it amusing that doubt is creeping in potentially about a manager that's not even been officially announced yet
My thoughts, too.
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I wouldn't know the standard of the new manager as I have no idea of football at this level,nice one Rowley
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I find it amusing that doubt is creeping in potentially about a manager that's not even been officially announced yet
After the last bunch of "managers", most of us would have misgivings if we appointed Mourinho. Reputation no longer counts for anything at this club.
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No manager appointed by Rowley will get my backing. They will be tainted by association of a failed regime
No more hiding behind well the fans thought it was a good appointment so its not my fault (Young and Harvey appointments)
Also anything other than champions of Evostick will be a total failure, so prepare for that failure now
Would happily sit this season out if it gets us a new chairman and board (who are equally culpable). My love afair with this club has ended and there only one way it will come back
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No manager appointed by Rowley will get my backing. They will be tainted by association of a failed regime
No more hiding behind well the fans thought it was a good appointment so its not my fault (Young and Harvey appointments)
Also anything other than champions of Evostick will be a total failure, so prepare for that failure now
Would happily sit this season out if it gets us a new chairman and board (who are equally culpable). My love afair with this club has ended and there only one way it will come back
Surely the aim is promotion? Obviously Champions would be everyone's choice but promotion through the play offs wouldn't be a failure.
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Agree, getting up is the only requirement
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No manager appointed by Rowley will get my backing. They will be tainted by association of a failed regime
No more hiding behind well the fans thought it was a good appointment so its not my fault (Young and Harvey appointments)
Also anything other than champions of Evostick will be a total failure, so prepare for that failure now
Would happily sit this season out if it gets us a new chairman and board (who are equally culpable). My love afair with this club has ended and there only one way it will come back
I agree with a lot of what you say but I'm sorry this is just nonsense rhetoric
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No manager appointed by Rowley will get my backing. They will be tainted by association of a failed regime
No more hiding behind well the fans thought it was a good appointment so its not my fault (Young and Harvey appointments)
Also anything other than champions of Evostick will be a total failure, so prepare for that failure now
Would happily sit this season out if it gets us a new chairman and board (who are equally culpable). My love afair with this club has ended and there only one way it will come back
Surely the aim is promotion? Obviously Champions would be everyone's choice but promotion through the play offs wouldn't be a failure.
ahh but did we earn it or merley achieve it..
😑😑😣😣
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Nothing against Parkinson but till Rowley goes I no longer support Alty
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I'm sure Scott is no different from any other player in that he'll go wherever he gets paid the most. Much will depend on the level of investment we have been told about.
If it was a decent level of investment we wouldn't be taking the Nantwich manager on.
No disrespect to the guy but money talks and if we had any we would be attracting a bigger name.
We are employing an Evostick manager because we are now an Evostick football club, not due to a lack of funds. We haven't descended to the lowest level in our history because there has been a lack of money coming into the football club.
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I'm sure Scott is no different from any other player in that he'll go wherever he gets paid the most. Much will depend on the level of investment we have been told about.
If it was a decent level of investment we wouldn't be taking the Nantwich manager on.
No disrespect to the guy but money talks and if we had any we would be attracting a bigger name.
We are employing an Evostick manager because we are now an Evostick football club, not due to a lack of funds. We haven't descended to the lowest level in our history because there has been a lack of money coming into the football club.
spot on. We have never been told we can't compete . We have spent the money very poorly on poor manager and poor players. Our p and l was very healthy
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No manager appointed by Rowley will get my backing. They will be tainted by association of a failed regime
No more hiding behind well the fans thought it was a good appointment so its not my fault (Young and Harvey appointments)
Also anything other than champions of Evostick will be a total failure, so prepare for that failure now
Would happily sit this season out if it gets us a new chairman and board (who are equally culpable). My love afair with this club has ended and there only one way it will come back
Disappointed in this Jamie, it is utterly bizarre as a man who knows football to tarnish Phil Parkinson and not back him because he has been picked by a board than contains Grahame Rowley. What is he supposed to do about that?
To say anything less than champions is total failure is also extreme as others have said. People wanted bullish talk of promotion and he and the board have done that.
I think you've been careful to set a placeholder here that you can refer back to say you never liked him from the start if we go on a poor run.
Which I don't think we will incidentally. His job is to get us winning football games and entertaining the paying punters. I think him stepping out of his comfort zone to commit to our club is a credit to him and gives me hope that he will get his rewards.
Let's hope May brings change for many reasons but also for the fact that we can talk about football instead of boardrooms for a bit.
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We need some songs creating
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We need some songs creating
.......I'm tired and I want to go to bed......I had a little think about an hour ago and it's really f*&ked my head
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Phil....Phil Parkinson !
We're glad he's here, and Doughty's gone.
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No manager appointed by Rowley will get my backing. They will be tainted by association of a failed regime
No more hiding behind well the fans thought it was a good appointment so its not my fault (Young and Harvey appointments)
Also anything other than champions of Evostick will be a total failure, so prepare for that failure now
Would happily sit this season out if it gets us a new chairman and board (who are equally culpable). My love afair with this club has ended and there only one way it will come back
Disappointed in this Jamie, it is utterly bizarre as a man who knows football to tarnish Phil Parkinson and not back him because he has been picked by a board than contains Grahame Rowley. What is he supposed to do about that?
To say anything less than champions is total failure is also extreme as others have said. People wanted bullish talk of promotion and he and the board have done that.
I think you've been careful to set a placeholder here that you can refer back to say you never liked him from the start if we go on a poor run.
Which I don't think we will incidentally. His job is to get us winning football games and entertaining the paying punters. I think him stepping out of his comfort zone to commit to our club is a credit to him and gives me hope that he will get his rewards.
Let's hope May brings change for many reasons but also for the fact that we can talk about football instead of boardrooms for a bit.
To be fair Ecky my comments you refer to were written before Phil Parkinson had been appointed, so nothing personal there. I support him as I have done all managers of this club
That said your spot on about the placeholder, I was optimistic about the Neil Young appointment, something I was ridiculed for on this forum shortly after - not again lad - any new manager needs the results before any judgement I will make - particularly when they have been appointed by a failed regime
I wish Phil Parkinson all the best and hope he becomes a great manager for us, the potential there - but I will withold judgement on anybody this board appoints