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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: markecky on August 22, 2009, 05:25:59 PM
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A few of our lads were below par today and we didn't play as well as we have done.
They looked a very useful side at times and won't be far off the playoffs. Great support as well.
Onwards to Kiddy, lets hope we keep attacking.
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A few of our lads were below par today and we didn't play as well as we have done.
They looked a very useful side at times and won't be far off the playoffs. Great support as well.
Onwards to Kiddy, lets hope we keep attacking.
just hope the floaters come back , probably only will if we are winning though
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absolutely no complaints, they were far better on the day. they looked a much better proposition than burton/torquay. all over 6ft, strong a lot fitter, got 5 men in the box when crossing.they will be a top 5 side.
biggest dissappointment today was the lack of energy in the performance, and we very rarely had anybody in the box except DJ. that of course is the main reason why we struggle with crowds. if i had been a neutral today, i wouldnt be too impressed, as it just wasnt too entertaining
470 in away end and about 100 in the stand
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I thought they were a very organised team.Their number 7 was quality (and he looked like Freddie Flintoff). Thought the right winger in the first half (number 8) looked useful and found a lot of space, even if he was a T**t. The black guy they had looked fairly useful but dived too much and had an attitude problem but defensively they were quite sound. We just needed a bit more quality up front but apart from that thought we played quite well.
Is Dale nursing an injury by the way?
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didn't get in the box or couldn't get in the box? wimbledon are strong and fit but blunt up front. i still reckon they'll make the play-offs though because they are a genuine non-league team on the up rather than the relegated big time charlies that haven't quite realised what they are dealing with yet.
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DJ was carrying injury from tuesday....
little was just a waste of space
unfortunately denham is expected to do so much tracking back, that he has no energy left when we attack. the lad must of run 12k today
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DJ was carrying injury from tuesday....
little was just a waste of space
unfortunately denham is expected to do so much tracking back, that he has no energy left when we attack. the lad must of run 12k today
Bit harsh to call one of our consistently best performers over the last few seasons a "waste of space".
Fair enough he wasn't at his best but it's not always easy coming on as a sub into a game and trying to get into the flow of it.
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Actually for once i agree with dino in that little was no good today. However they had two or three on him all the time it seemed in the middle.
The first half an hour they battered us and we ran and ran and got nowhere. We then came back into it but that killed us later in the game as we had no energy left. We had a good couple of chances but ifs and buts dont count.
They were big and strong and can play football but useless up front.
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Sometimes you have to just hold up your hands and say you were beaten by a better team. That's what happened today.
Enough said. We move on and look for 3 points at Kidderminster - keep the faith! :)
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Sometimes you have to just hold up your hands and say you were beaten by a better team. That's what happened today.
Enough said. We move on and look for 3 points at Kidderminster - keep the faith! :)
Agreed.
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I'm assuming Smith was injured? But if so why stick Little on? Once he came on we seemed to loose momentum. Anyway, better team won today.
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Right ok, I wasn't there but generally bringing Colin on is for the purpose of scoring a f*ckn goal is it not?
Like last week at Hayes perhaps? Whether he is lacking a touch of fitness or GH thinks he is now better as an impact sub I do not know but he has always been the premier player in our current side, so what is the issue? Senior scores goals, Dale makes a nuisance of himself in the box but we require a clinical goal scorer who will take a half chance or create one. That is Colin Little.
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The answer to this of "why Col?" debate is quite obvious to me:
There were no defenders on the bench to bring on so we brought on the best player available.
End of.
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Strange game, they were undoubtedly better on the ball, but in the second half we had the better chances.
I hate slating any of our players as they all normally give everything they have. Having said that I thought Matty Crowell was terrible today.
Still, no disgrace.
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Right ok, I wasn't there but generally bringing Colin on is for the purpose of scoring a f*ckn goal is it not?
Like last week at Hayes perhaps? Whether he is lacking a touch of fitness or GH thinks he is now better as an impact sub I do not know but he has always been the premier player in our current side, so what is the issue? Senior scores goals, Dale makes a nuisance of himself in the box but we require a clinical goal scorer who will take a half chance or create one. That is Colin Little.
And what's the purpose of having Smith on, to defend against "fxxxxg" attackers of course-using your own eloquence here as you can see. I personally was not expecting GH to throw another striker on or perhaps just place like with like. End of as one of your pals put!
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Generally a poor display by the Robins today.. Lots of space in the midfield which Wombledon exploited well. Matty Doughty AGAIN wandering far to much inside . The Wimbledon right side was their biggest means of delivery which they failed to make the most use of.
If Matty D doesnt get tight on the oppositions right side then we are going to suffer.
Wimbledon are a good side, I wouldnt say they are top 5 but certainly top half of the league.
See you at Kiddy next Saturday. (a virtual home game for me) :D
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I'm assuming Smith was injured? But if so why stick Little on? Once he came on we seemed to loose momentum. Anyway, better team won today.
It wasn't when Little came on that we lost momentum. We lost momentum when Dale was taken off. If he was injured then that's fair enough but if he wasn't it was a big mistake to substitute him as he is our first line of defence. The minute he went off our midfield were taken out of the game as they play off him when he holds the ball. Once he went off it was game over and they tore us apart (albeit we would have had a couple, but they could have had 5). It's as simple as that..
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They were better than us in every department today. Sometimes you are just beaten by a better team and have to accept it.
We were given enough warnings of their intent and were CONSTANTLY allowing free headers at the back post and were CONSTANTLY opened up on the right hand side. A better side would have stuck 4 or 5 in today. I just don't understand why we don't learn our lessons and allow simple attacks time and time again. And the miss by Robbie Williams at the end from 1 yard summed up his general game - crap. Almost as poor as Nicky Clee - I wouldn't start with either if we can at all help it. Both nowhere near the required standard. Robbie Williams is about 7ft 11 and he refused to win a header all game.
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They were better than us in every department today. Sometimes you are just beaten by a better team and have to accept it.
We were given enough warnings of their intent and were CONSTANTLY allowing free headers at the back post and were CONSTANTLY opened up on the right hand side. A better side would have stuck 4 or 5 in today. I just don't understand why we don't learn our lessons and allow simple attacks time and time again. And the miss by Robbie Williams at the end from 1 yard summed up his general game - crap. Almost as poor as Nicky Clee - I wouldn't start with either if we can at all help it. Both nowhere near the required standard. Robbie Williams is about 7ft 11 and he refused to win a header all game.
Did you watch the same game as us or did you have the sun in your eyes?
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They were better than us in every department today. Sometimes you are just beaten by a better team and have to accept it.
We were given enough warnings of their intent and were CONSTANTLY allowing free headers at the back post and were CONSTANTLY opened up on the right hand side. A better side would have stuck 4 or 5 in today. I just don't understand why we don't learn our lessons and allow simple attacks time and time again. And the miss by Robbie Williams at the end from 1 yard summed up his general game - crap. Almost as poor as Nicky Clee - I wouldn't start with either if we can at all help it. Both nowhere near the required standard. Robbie Williams is about 7ft 11 and he refused to win a header all game.
Did you watch the same game as us or did you have the sun in your eyes?
Not quite as stinging as that last poster, but its fair to say that Robbie does not win as many headers as should.
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I'm assuming Smith was injured? But if so why stick Little on? Once he came on we seemed to loose momentum. Anyway, better team won today.
It wasn't when Little came on that we lost momentum. We lost momentum when Dale was taken off. If he was injured then that's fair enough but if he wasn't it was a big mistake to substitute him as he is our first line of defence. The minute he went off our midfield were taken out of the game as they play off him when he holds the ball. Once he went off it was game over and they tore us apart (albeit we would have had a couple, but they could have had 5). It's as simple as that..
Point well made-yes indeed I agree we were far less effective without Dale. His back must be covered in bruises with all the shoves in the back he takes during a game. I hope we can keep him fit for the majority of games this season.
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They were better than us in every department today. Sometimes you are just beaten by a better team and have to accept it.
We were given enough warnings of their intent and were CONSTANTLY allowing free headers at the back post and were CONSTANTLY opened up on the right hand side. A better side would have stuck 4 or 5 in today. I just don't understand why we don't learn our lessons and allow simple attacks time and time again. And the miss by Robbie Williams at the end from 1 yard summed up his general game - crap. Almost as poor as Nicky Clee - I wouldn't start with either if we can at all help it. Both nowhere near the required standard. Robbie Williams is about 7ft 11 and he refused to win a header all game.
Did you watch the same game as us or did you have the sun in your eyes?
Not quite as stinging as that last poster, but its fair to say that Robbie does not win as many headers as should.
Ok maybe not, but a little over the top though, don't you think? Clee hasn't been given a start yet to show what he can do and it's Williams's second full game. Players need time to settle in and IMHO the whole team looked a little out of sorts yesterday! In fact it was exactly the same team that beat Histon on Tuesday night and I haven't read a post on here that criticised the team or players after that game! Disaster - We are in a play-off place after 5 games!
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No complaints whatsoevere, just very downbeat that we get a good sized crowd and put on the most abject of performances. Not one to get the floaters back bank Holiday Monday.
Smith didn't come out 2nd half as he had a toe injury. This ment we went to the what looked to a 4-2-4 formation, unfortunatley Doughty is not a left back and we were continually exposed down this side (this also happen in pre-season matches). As the midfield was out of sorts in the 1st half we bypased it 2nd.
I assume Coburn has a knock as after they scored he took no free kicks from 25 yards or more.
A weeks rest won't do any harm before the Kiddy game (would be well chuffed with a point) then Chester on Monday. As Chester got thier first point and didn't concede 4 I hope they bring as many as Wimbledon.
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Sorry to say this but, unusually, I disagree with most of the previous posts.
We looked relatively ineffective up front because of AFC's ability to play the traditional "Wimbledon" way. When the opposition come forward get six or more men in the box, when AFC go forward get six or more upfront and midfield is a non existent area.
They played like Histon last season only are better at it and probably not as much in the air, but still mostly missing out the midfield area.
I thought Robbie Williams had a good game and he and Young won most things in the air. AFC's finishing was so bad that Coburn did not have many shots he needed to stop particularly in the first half. At no time did they batter us even, with more possession, our defednce was not perfect but good enough to keep many teams in this league at bay.
It was the usual story we do better against teams that play decent football (eg Burton Albion) than the big hoof brigade.
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Thanks season ticket.
An observation of the game which reflects mine.
Steve from Sale
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Poor display today, AFC Wimbledon were more of a challenge to face and unfortunately we were left a little exposed.
Their goal resulted in an attacking move breaking down with Kearney progressing upfield and when possession was lost their player progressed effortlessly through the void that was left and was left unchallenged. That said, I thought the strike was not that powerful and perhaps maybe we may have expected Stu to get a hand to it.
It was obvious that our side were tiring with 30 mins to go and the substitutions were largely ineffective.The goal from them was always coming, well perhaps GH has some things to think about because if we play away like that at Kidderminster we will be hammered.
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Poor display today, AFC Wimbledon were more of a challenge to face and unfortunately we were left a little exposed.
Their goal resulted in an attacking move breaking down with Kearney progressing upfield and when possession was lost their player progressed effortlessly through the void that was left and was left unchallenged. That said, I thought the strike was not that powerful and perhaps maybe we may have expected Stu to get a hand to it.
It was obvious that our side were tiring with 30 mins to go and the substitutions were largely ineffective.The goal from them was always coming, well perhaps GH has some things to think about because if we play away like that at Kidderminster we will be hammered.
And there ends the positivity.
With the size of our squad the substitutions make themselves really especially with injuries to Dale and Smith.
If we play like we played against Histon we'll hammer Kidderminster. ;)
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very unfair on little them posts.he nearly scored and tried to make things happen.we didnt look like scoreing till he came on.just needs to get some games under his belt.people have short memories.he scored a cracker last week for gods sake.it was a case of them being to good for us.reality check.
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I actually can't see Kidderminster being as strong, quick and disciplined as Wimbledon were. We ere beaten by a very good team and if they find someone who can actually take the chances they create they will be up there this season.
A week's rest and work on some of the weaker areas from this ame (i.e. allowing attack up the same flank time and time again) then I think we can go there, play as we have been doing up to know, and get a point (or more). A good performance and a solid point would be the perfect lead in to the demolition of Chester on the Monday in front of 3000. Here's hoping anyway.
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The problem is we have set the bar quite high with the first 4 performances, therefore if we don't play to that people are going to complain, including me.
I thought the ball should have been given to Senior more on the deck and let him have a bit of a run, also we could have swapped Denham and Senior round before the subs to give their full backs more to think about.
They had plenty behind when we had ball then overloaded when they did, that small lad that came on (Main ?) should have hit at least 2.
Disappointed, but its only 1 game.
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I think some people need to get a grip! Did anyone seriously expect us to go unbeaten all season? You'd think we'd been dicked 5 nil by the bottom team the way some people are talking.
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Totally agree 1981, I watch AFCW on and off as I only live a couple of miles away, and I thought we'd get a test yesterday. I just can't believe they competed in the same league as Hayes & Yeading last season.
I think they could be thereabouts come May, I wish them well too as the fans were shafted years ago, but sadly they need to find the funds or wherewithall to extend a ground they are swiftly outgrowing.
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To be honest, all good things have to come to and end and that was without adoubt the toughest opposition we have played so far this season. It was by no reach of the imagination, an emberrassment. If you looked at our first 5 fixtures pre season and someone offered us 10 points and fifth place, we would have snapped their hand off. For the people who are upset about the run ending. dont worry we'll just win every single away game instead ;)
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Last season we would have lost that game 3-0.
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Last season we would have lost that game 3-0.
Atleast!
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Last season we would have lost that game 3-0.
Isn't a 1-0 loss just the same as a 3-0 loss ? Unless we're hoping goal difference for the play off places would make a difference end of season :)
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Last season we would have lost that game 3-0.
Isn't a 1-0 loss just the same as a 3-0 loss ? Unless we're hoping goal difference for the play off places would make a difference end of season :)
Is that a serious question?
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Last season we would have lost that game 3-0.
Isn't a 1-0 loss just the same as a 3-0 loss ? Unless we're hoping goal difference for the play off places would make a difference end of season :)
Is that a serious question?
No, just a loss was a loss, just as much as 1-0 win is the same as a 3-0 win. Thats my opinion anyway. Unless you mean the detremental effects a bigger loss would create. Although we're Alty so we're predictable at being unpredictable
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Come on Blackpool mate, reread what you said. Sometimes we all post stuff in a moment of flux.