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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: thegazelle on August 13, 2011, 10:27:31 PM
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Fro the Harrogate sight
This was a great game to win. The way the players conducted themselves when down to 10 was magnificent, never saying die. It must have been easy for them to become overwhelmed, especially as they equalised and were pushing for a third. Mark Cook pulled off some absolutely stunning saves and had an amazing game, and the defence was solid near the end. Well done lads. Regardless, the win was made even sweeter by the fact a large section of their traveling support acted like brainless, thuggish morons. No wonder there were rioting problems in Manchester, given the ridiculously immature response of their fans to their own team's defeat.
God knows what they will think when fcum arrive gutted i missed it i could have been immature with the best of them
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Fro the Harrogate sight
This was a great game to win. The way the players conducted themselves when down to 10 was magnificent, never saying die. It must have been easy for them to become overwhelmed, especially as they equalised and were pushing for a third. Mark Cook pulled off some absolutely stunning saves and had an amazing game, and the defence was solid near the end. Well done lads. Regardless, the win was made even sweeter by the fact a large section of their traveling support acted like brainless, thuggish morons. No wonder there were rioting problems in Manchester, given the ridiculously immature response of their fans to their own team's defeat.
God knows what they will think when fcum arrive gutted i missed it i could have been immature with the best of them
Tbh their stewards shouldn't be winding people up - they were making it worse
For those who haven't been/didn't go - if you've been barrow/Eastbourne, it's similar in that the tunnel goes through the stand with a gate,
A lot of alty fans went to the alty players to clap them off, and it wasn't as bad as they make out
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They should man up a bit. Yes quite a few people had a good drink today and were maybe a bit lairy at times.
What would they make of Wrexham fans coming round to them and punching and spitting in peoples faces?
However I believe that many of them stayed in their social until 7:30...not really the actions of thuggish morons.
If I was them I'd be very grateful for the thousands of pounds we have put in today...
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One guy was letting off a lot of steam with repeated use of the C word in frustration at the referee and Harrogate keeper.
Yes I saw this too - had to move away from the general 'hub' of fans after this as I had my five year old with me.
Surely there's no need for constant F and Cs in this day and age, especially given the usual good nature and 'family' aspect the club has?
Still, the keeper was a bit of a ****
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Tbf iwe did have a few dickheads there today who couldn't handle there ale who I haven't seen before.
Seeing two little Alty fans cry because of the knobish behavior spoilt my day
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Tbf iwe did have a few dickheads there today who couldn't handle there ale who I haven't seen before.
Seeing two little Alty fans cry because of the knobish behavior spoilt my day
i didnt see any scenes as i left at the final whistle shame that is
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Tbf iwe did have a few dickheads there today who couldn't handle there ale who I haven't seen before.
Seeing two little Alty fans cry because of the knobish behavior spoilt my day
Blown out of all proportion
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Tbf iwe did have a few dickheads there today who couldn't handle there ale who I haven't seen before.
Seeing two little Alty fans cry because of the knobish behavior spoilt my day
Blown out of all proportion
Why?
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I didn't see the incidents referred to, but I guess it's hardly surprising as there were certainly a few Alty fans who reached a state of drunken stupor at some point between 11.00am & 3.00pm.
We don't appear to have any thugs, but we have certainly got one or two idiots, haven't we?
Harrogate Town F.C. were pretty tolerant, from what I saw.
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Tbf iwe did have a few dickheads there today who couldn't handle there ale who I haven't seen before.
Seeing two little Alty fans cry because of the knobish behavior spoilt my day
Blown out of all proportion
No it wasn't if you can't handle your beer why spoil it for the others with your behaviour, Coke cans thrown at there keeper
when we scored is not nice to see.
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Any more diirty linen we want to wash in public?
Any mention of the 150 fans who weren't pissed or swearing?
It's not been denied that some people were too drunk, some peoples behaviour could have been better.
It's not nice at all that youngsters were upset but I'm pretty sure that there Dads realised that it wasn't the best place for them to stand and moved them away a little, just like it seems that bigcol did.
Of course ideal world says you should be able to stand where you want but we don't live in an ideal world.
Lets move on now..
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Personally I thought some of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday.
People need to grow up.
Last few seasons we were small fry in comparison to some of the larger teams, this year we are bigger boys in comparison.
But there is no need to be idiots, sooner or later there is going to be trouble.
Compare our fans to those of the York Ultras (smashing barriers, throwing coke cans, letting off smoke grenades) - just a thought
I am not going any further than that on my comments, you know who you are and what you did, luckily it was a small minority and most behaved themselves well.
As for me I enjoyed the day so much, it was top.
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Fro the Harrogate sight
This was a great game to win. The way the players conducted themselves when down to 10 was magnificent, never saying die. It must have been easy for them to become overwhelmed, especially as they equalised and were pushing for a third. Mark Cook pulled off some absolutely stunning saves and had an amazing game, and the defence was solid near the end. Well done lads. Regardless, the win was made even sweeter by the fact a large section of their traveling support acted like brainless, thuggish morons. No wonder there were rioting problems in Manchester, given the ridiculously immature response of their fans to their own team's defeat.
God knows what they will think when fcum arrive gutted i missed it i could have been immature with the best of them
??? ::)
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I agree. It doesn't matter how small a minority it was, it tarnishes our reputation and spoilt what was otherwise a good day out (result excepted).
Personally I thought some of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday.
People need to grow up.
Last few seasons we were small fry in comparison to some of the larger teams, this year we are bigger boys in comparison.
But there is no need to be idiots, sooner or later there is going to be trouble.
Compare our fans to those of the York Ultras (smashing barriers, throwing coke cans, letting off smoke grenades) - just a thought
I am not going any further than that on my comments, you know who you are and what you did, luckily it was a small minority and most behaved themselves well.
As for me I enjoyed the day so much, it was top.
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There is really no need for "glad I didn't go" or "I'll not be going again" posts.
It was like a cup game..at cup games you sadly get people who come along who aren't that arsed about the ethos of the club.
People reading this thread must be thinking it was like a war zone or a running battle with police and lines of riot shields.
It was very easy to move away a little and not hear or see any of it. Lets get it into perspective.
Some people were out of order, they had to much to drink and could have conducted themselves better.
It was a one off...it'll be a little different at Vauxhall a week on Tuesday.
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over the top reactions to a few idiots , bad stewarding ,but please dont be put off going to away games , i think that because of no segregation at these games it was more noticable ,hope the drunken idiots that made kids upset are ashamed of them selves
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I'm sorry but this has been blown out if proportions
It wasn't just down to alty fans.... Better stewarding would have made it much better, if people are angry you don't wind them up!
There wasn't numerous coke cans thrown at the keeper, and one smoke bomb at the start.... Guess someone will moan because I brought confetti and somebody will have to sweep it up... (I actually helped picked up the cans and rubbish after the game for about 10 mins)
The whole end thing lasted about 5 minutes - with HTFC player/stewards swearing and gesturing before both sets went and had a drink, discussed the the league table/other games. The stewards who'd be shouting even let us and a HTFC fan have a kick about on the pitch. we stood and spoke to some of their players who'd had been involved in the post match discussion (albeit one came out with a cocky remark on his way past....said to the wring person could have provoked more) about the game and their season
Yesterday showed me what I love about non league football - little kick about on their pitch, being able to speak to players on both sides, supporters who after an emotional game can just put that to one side and move on.
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Tbf iwe did have a few dickheads there today who couldn't handle there ale who I haven't seen before.
Seeing two little Alty fans cry because of the knobish behavior spoilt my day
Blown out of all proportion
No it wasn't if you can't handle your beer why spoil it for the others with your behaviour, Coke cans thrown at there keeper
when we scored is not nice to see.
To be honest I didn't see that, from what I saw there were a few lads who had had a bit too much to drink, most of the comments were banterish and I din't see anything threatening. I've seen much much worse. This whole thread makes it sound like the fans were all animals fighting and kicking off. The reason I'm suggesting it was blown out of all proportion is:-
1. The harrogate fan who linked it to the manchester riots is a disgraceful comment.
2. I personally did not observe any can throwing, I did see the abuse at the opposition player who was sent off which was a bit over the top.
3.I did observe 3 of the harrogate stewards in the area where the players went off gesturing at some of our supporters.
I guess perceptions can depend on what is seen and exactly where you were stood. I was behind the goal to the right and for the record sober.
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apart from one fan (who shall remain nameless) dancing round the social club with his shirt off, and, a fair few people overly goading their player who was sent off, I didn't see anything that you would expect at a football match, certainly no violence or behaviour i would describe as thuggish.
Heaven forbid when AFC Chester, FCUM and the no doubt future AFC Wrexham come to play them.
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Right let's just think.... People drinking all day, no trouble on the trains, only told we were a little loud outside the pub singing, when asked to quieten we did and moved on... Then look when the "rampages" began...after a late undeserved goal... People quoting how they "felt worse than after Eastbourne" if they felt that... Throw inexperienced (but some of them lovely people) stewards and there will be words exchanged especially when a player turns around and starts gesturing at fans (knowing he'd have to walk past the bar to get out...)
I was close to this as I wanted to applaud of the alty players (and speak to ExGk after hed come back out about a shirt
They've had southport do things 1000x worse smashing the entire bar up, and the ground on the last day
They do seggregate for big game ie FA cup a few years ago when Torquay brought 300
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There were a number of reasons why I didn't go yesterday.
Of course I don't think it was all running battles and riots, I've been watching Alty home and away for nearly 20 years, but I just hate to see the name of my club tarnished, and it obviously has been to a lot of people in Harrogate, who might not now make the trip to Moss Lane, meaning less income for our club.
Pompous crap. A lot of people in Harroagte? what the 12 or so they would've brought anyway?
For the record, the barmaid at the Coach and Horses was pleased with us, the bar manager of the social club said we'd been fine when I left there at 7pm. You can stand where you like at a game and view it all if different ways but don't come on here all condescending when you've not even been. get a grip.
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How dare you call me pmpous, I'm entitled to my opinion, it's a forum.
You're pompous
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apart from one fan (who shall remain nameless) dancing round the social club with his shirt off, and, a fair few people overly goading their player who was sent off, I didn't see anything that you would expect at a football match, certainly no violence or behaviour i would describe as thuggish.
Heaven forbid when AFC Chester, FCUM and the no doubt future AFC Wrexham come to play them.
What the f**k are you on? Do you mean cause of bigger, louder crowds or are you actually trying to claim that FC would just turn up and smash the place up?
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seem to have a record for violence including 100% record of 40 yearold blokes punching schoolboys . so if the cap fits wear it
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apart from one fan (who shall remain nameless) dancing round the social club with his shirt off, and, a fair few people overly goading their player who was sent off, I didn't see anything that you would expect at a football match, certainly no violence or behaviour i would describe as thuggish.
Heaven forbid when AFC Chester, FCUM and the no doubt future AFC Wrexham come to play them.
What the f**k are you on? Do you mean cause of bigger, louder crowds or are you actually trying to claim that FC would just turn up and smash the place up?
Closer to the first bit than the last in this instance LUHG, calm down.
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apart from one fan (who shall remain nameless) dancing round the social club with his shirt off, and, a fair few people overly goading their player who was sent off, I didn't see anything that you would expect at a football match, certainly no violence or behaviour i would describe as thuggish.
Heaven forbid when AFC Chester, FCUM and the no doubt future AFC Wrexham come to play them.
What the f**k are you on? Do you mean cause of bigger, louder crowds or are you actually trying to claim that FC would just turn up and smash the place up?
Closer to the first bit than the last in this instance LUHG, calm down.
Fair enough then mate. And I'll just ignore "thegazelle"'s childish, uneducated comment.
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I am excused as i couldnt go yesterday and missed my chance to be immature (childish) with the rest .
Its a good job your not a trout LUHG my landing net would be full
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I wasn't there on Saturday. I was really gutted I couldn't go. It doesn't sound too bad to me, but it's true that if you have 50 lads drinking on a train at half nine in the morning then it won't pass without incident. What were people expecting when this was being talked up for weeks on end?
I think we're a bit lost in ourselves on here. People being told off for saying it was out of order. No Alty fan has said it was like a riot, in fact theres a good description about 4 posts down so seems pretty clear to me. If the boot was on the other foot we'd be nailing away fans to the cross. Making kids cry isn't acceptable and there's no reason to justify it.
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I think the reports of trouble have been overly exaggerated. Had there been a more visible stewarding we wouldnt even be having this discussion. It was a few drunken lads venting their frustration on what had largely been a frustrating afternoon. If harrogate have serious promotion plans then they will have to get used to worse than that. What should be of more concern is our clear defensive frailties, though im sure lee will sort them out. My positives were our splendid attacking play as well as the improved play of both ryan brown and michael twiss