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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Iateallthepies on May 14, 2018, 07:41:57 PM
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In your opinion what are the best grounds to visit in the North league next season?
I'm looking forward to Blyth. Not been there yet.
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york and kiddy
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York away get in my belly.
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stockport! ;D
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York, Stockport and it’s a fairly basic set up but I do like Lem for the day out.
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Distance wise, what would be our furthest away day?
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Blyth of Hereford - but depends where you start from ;D
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I don't have a real favourite among the grounds, though if York really are going to move out of town one more trip to Bootham Crescent is something to relish, but in terms of days out York, Hereford, Kidderminster & Southport are top of my list. I'd like to get to Darlo this time - didn't make it last time we played them & it would make three different venues in the same town after Feethams & the White Elephant Arena.
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Nice to see Kiddy get a few votes. Some good real ale pubs namely the SVR station and the Harriers Arms great chippy at Captain Cod the pies at the ground are unique in a good way, so different from Telford plastic food beer in plastic glasses and crap parking
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Isn't the food meant to be decent at Kidderminster?
Don't know about favourites, but I'm not looking forward to going to FCUM
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New grounds for me are Curzon, FC Confused, Spennymoor and Leamington, although I've been to the latter's previous home. As regards the day I reckon both Banbury/ Brackley and Hereford have the makings of a decent trip. York speaks for itself.
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FCUM if you go in the seats or stand in the paddock below the main stand then it’s a decent enough view. Unfortunately though as we will be segregated there’s limited facilities in the away end.
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FCUM if you go in the seats or stand in the paddock below the main stand then it’s a decent enough view. Unfortunately though as we will be segregated there’s limited facilities in the away end.
Awful away end that.
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I can tick off Blyth, Boston, Chorley, Hereford, Leamington, Spennymoor and Telford next season. Quite a haul.
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Darlingtons new ground is my only tick, done all the others.
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Point of Order for the Grounds committee:
1) Is the New Bucks Head a different ground to the old one, given it occupies the same site?
2) More optimistically, is the New Wembley a different ground to the old one?
Next years new grounds for me are Bradford Park Avenue, Chester, Guiseley, Hereford, Spennymoor, plus maybe Telford
And I have home matches at Brackley and Leamington (M40 dash!) and Hereford (Direct train from Slough).
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Point of Order for the Grounds committee:
1) Is the New Bucks Head a different ground to the old one, given it occupies the same site?
2) More optimistically, is the New Wembley a different ground to the old one?
Next years new grounds for me are Bradford Park Avenue, Chester, Guiseley, Hereford, Spennymoor, plus maybe Telford
And I have home matches at Brackley and Leamington (M40 dash!) and Hereford (Direct train from Slough).
Same site is same ground for me. Old Trafford today is unrecognisable from 30 years ago, but it isn't a different venue.
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Point of Order for the Grounds committee:
1) Is the New Bucks Head a different ground to the old one, given it occupies the same site?
2) More optimistically, is the New Wembley a different ground to the old one?
Next years new grounds for me are Bradford Park Avenue, Chester, Guiseley, Hereford, Spennymoor, plus maybe Telford
And I have home matches at Brackley and Leamington (M40 dash!) and Hereford (Direct train from Slough).
I think it depends if the pitch hasn't changed.then its the same ground but if rotated 90 degrees then its different
Same site is same ground for me. Old Trafford today is unrecognisable from 30 years ago, but it isn't a different venue.
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Kiddy worth going to for the food alone, best Cottage Pie in the universe.
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Point of Order for the Grounds committee:
1) Is the New Bucks Head a different ground to the old one, given it occupies the same site?
2) More optimistically, is the New Wembley a different ground to the old one?
Next years new grounds for me are Bradford Park Avenue, Chester, Guiseley, Hereford, Spennymoor, plus maybe Telford
And I have home matches at Brackley and Leamington (M40 dash!) and Hereford (Direct train from Slough).
Same site is same ground for me. Old Trafford today is unrecognisable from 30 years ago, but it isn't a different venue.
It might look very different, but there are still elements of the ground that haven't changed much over that period, e.g. the South Stand.
Physical continuity is the important issue. If a house has been standing on the same spot for 500 years, but it is knocked down and rebuilt every 100 hundred years, the house standing there now is clearly not the same one as that was there 500 years ago. Despite the fact that it is in exactly the same location as the house 500 years ago.
A complete rebuild is a new ground in my view, as there is no physical continuity with the ground other than its location.
Clearly there could be difficult issues concerning a ground where 99.9% of it has changed but they've kept some old turnstiles or something.
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Point of Order for the Grounds committee:
1) Is the New Bucks Head a different ground to the old one, given it occupies the same site?
2) More optimistically, is the New Wembley a different ground to the old one?
Next years new grounds for me are Bradford Park Avenue, Chester, Guiseley, Hereford, Spennymoor, plus maybe Telford
And I have home matches at Brackley and Leamington (M40 dash!) and Hereford (Direct train from Slough).
Same site is same ground for me. Old Trafford today is unrecognisable from 30 years ago, but it isn't a different venue.
It might look very different, but there are still elements of the ground that haven't changed much over that period, e.g. the South Stand.
Physical continuity is the important issue. If a house has been standing on the same spot for 500 years, but it is knocked down and rebuilt every 100 hundred years, the house standing there now is clearly not the same one as that was there 500 years ago. Despite the fact that it is in exactly the same location as the house 500 years ago.
A complete rebuild is a new ground in my view, as there is no physical continuity with the ground other than its location.
Clearly there could be difficult issues concerning a ground where 99.9% of it has changed but they've kept some old turnstiles or something.
Re: The Buck's Head. The more modern of the old two seated stands is still there, but has been converted to offices with a paddock terrace. So Bill, as self appointed arbiter you are NOT entitled to a new notch. More generally I have to disagree with Jimmy re: a complete rebuild occupying 100% the same site, if only because it would make '3 times to Wembley' redundant. You have to think these things through.
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Point of Order for the Grounds committee:
1) Is the New Bucks Head a different ground to the old one, given it occupies the same site?
2) More optimistically, is the New Wembley a different ground to the old one?
Next years new grounds for me are Bradford Park Avenue, Chester, Guiseley, Hereford, Spennymoor, plus maybe Telford
And I have home matches at Brackley and Leamington (M40 dash!) and Hereford (Direct train from Slough).
Same site is same ground for me. Old Trafford today is unrecognisable from 30 years ago, but it isn't a different venue.
It might look very different, but there are still elements of the ground that haven't changed much over that period, e.g. the South Stand.
Physical continuity is the important issue. If a house has been standing on the same spot for 500 years, but it is knocked down and rebuilt every 100 hundred years, the house standing there now is clearly not the same one as that was there 500 years ago. Despite the fact that it is in exactly the same location as the house 500 years ago.
A complete rebuild is a new ground in my view, as there is no physical continuity with the ground other than its location.
Clearly there could be difficult issues concerning a ground where 99.9% of it has changed but they've kept some old turnstiles or something.
Re: The Buck's Head. The more modern of the old two seated stands is still there, but has been converted to offices with a paddock terrace. So Bill, as self appointed arbiter you are NOT entitled to a new notch. More generally I have to disagree with Jimmy re: a complete rebuild occupying 100% the same site, if only because it would make '3 times to Wembley' redundant. You have to think these things through.
It wouldn't make it redundant though, it's still true.
Both these statements are true, and not contradictory:
Altrincham have played at Wembley three times.
The New Wembley stadium is a different stadium from the old Wembley Stadium.
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We’ve been once, twice, three times to Wembley!
But let’s not get in to which one!
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Point of Order for the Grounds committee:
1) Is the New Bucks Head a different ground to the old one, given it occupies the same site?
2) More optimistically, is the New Wembley a different ground to the old one?
Next years new grounds for me are Bradford Park Avenue, Chester, Guiseley, Hereford, Spennymoor, plus maybe Telford
And I have home matches at Brackley and Leamington (M40 dash!) and Hereford (Direct train from Slough).
Same site is same ground for me. Old Trafford today is unrecognisable from 30 years ago, but it isn't a different venue.
It might look very different, but there are still elements of the ground that haven't changed much over that period, e.g. the South Stand.
Physical continuity is the important issue. If a house has been standing on the same spot for 500 years, but it is knocked down and rebuilt every 100 hundred years, the house standing there now is clearly not the same one as that was there 500 years ago. Despite the fact that it is in exactly the same location as the house 500 years ago.
A complete rebuild is a new ground in my view, as there is no physical continuity with the ground other than its location.
Clearly there could be difficult issues concerning a ground where 99.9% of it has changed but they've kept some old turnstiles or something.
Re: The Buck's Head. The more modern of the old two seated stands is still there, but has been converted to offices with a paddock terrace. So Bill, as self appointed arbiter you are NOT entitled to a new notch. More generally I have to disagree with Jimmy re: a complete rebuild occupying 100% the same site, if only because it would make '3 times to Wembley' redundant. You have to think these things through.
It wouldn't make it redundant though, it's still true.
Both these statements are true, and not contradictory:
Altrincham have played at Wembley three times.
The New Wembley stadium is a different stadium from the old Wembley Stadium.
from the song [last line]
'And it looks like we're going AGAIN'
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/again
i.e. Implying to return to the same place, not a new place.
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We’ve been once, twice, three times to Wembley!
But let’s not get in to which one!
I like this version, perhaps it could be sung alternatively along with the original. You sharpening your pencil for next year's Eurovsion?
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from the song [last line]
'And it looks like we're going AGAIN'
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/again
i.e. Implying to return to the same place, not a new place.
Ha! Fair enough.
Well, I still maintain they're different grounds so it looks like we'll have to sacrifice the song. ;D
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
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I would agree with Toff Apple that it depends on the pitch, as that is surely the point of a football ground. If it's extended or reduced by a metre or so, that makes no difference, but if the pitch is realigned, that counts as a new one in my opinion, and I believe Wembley's pitch is at an angle now to what it was at our last (?) visit in 1986.
Each to their own though, and unless we have a competition as to who has been to the most grounds and someone claims a prize on the basis of counting the Buck's Head and New Buck's Head as two separate grounds, you can choose to count what you want, as I am sure people will.
Darlington will be the only new ground for me, although different clubs play at Spennymoor and Hereford since our last visit, so I am very keen to visit all three.
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Wembley to me was the twin towers not this tarted up white elephant stadium it is now. I am probably in the minority but I would rather the FA Trophy Final be held at Villa Park and the Conference play off Final be held at somewhere like Stoke
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Its a bit like when someone gets a patch of turf for a memento, at the end of the day a lot of pitches are completely relayed.
Like the irish tale,
I've had this spade in our family for 7 generations, its had 3 new handles and 4 new heads.
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
I don't like having to sit at one end of the ground.
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
I don't like having to sit at one end of the ground.
Won't we be having to do that at most grounds next season?
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
The locals
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
The locals
Most 'locals' in Boston are now Eastern European.
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
The locals
Most 'locals' in Boston are now Eastern European.
Horrible memories of a baying racist mob with a local constabulary who seemed singularly one sided.......I realise this is some time ago, but I've never liked the place.
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What's wrong with Boston??
Horrible memories of a baying racist mob with a local constabulary who seemed singularly one sided.......I realise this is some time ago, but I've never liked the place.
Ditto
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
The locals
Most 'locals' in Boston are now Eastern European.
Horrible memories of a baying racist mob with a local constabulary who seemed singularly one sided.......I realise this is some time ago, but I've never liked the place.
I remember ex Boston player Leroy Chambers being visibly upset by the racist abuse he suffered when he returned to York St with Alty.
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Its a bit like when someone gets a patch of turf for a memento, at the end of the day a lot of pitches are completely relayed.
Like the irish tale,
I've had this spade in our family for 7 generations, its had 3 new handles and 4 new heads.
https://www.facebook.com/onlyfoolsandhorses/videos/1266983796705542/
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Its a bit like when someone gets a patch of turf for a memento, at the end of the day a lot of pitches are completely relayed.
Like the irish tale,
I've had this spade in our family for 7 generations, its had 3 new handles and 4 new heads.
https://www.facebook.com/onlyfoolsandhorses/videos/1266983796705542/
The puzzle actually has its origins in ancient Greek philosophy. The problem was most famously stated as the 'Ship of Theseus': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
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York , Boston and Chorley proper grounds!!
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
I don't like having to sit at one end of the ground.
Won't we be having to do that at most grounds next season?
I doubt it. Example Southport - I sit in the main stand. We got a side-on view at Kidderminster last time. It'll happen at FCUM and Chester though.
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Its a bit like when someone gets a patch of turf for a memento, at the end of the day a lot of pitches are completely relayed.
Like the irish tale,
I've had this spade in our family for 7 generations, its had 3 new handles and 4 new heads.
https://www.facebook.com/onlyfoolsandhorses/videos/1266983796705542/
The puzzle actually has its origins in ancient Greek philosophy. The problem was most famously stated as the 'Ship of Theseus': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
Love this forum
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Its a bit like when someone gets a patch of turf for a memento, at the end of the day a lot of pitches are completely relayed.
Like the irish tale,
I've had this spade in our family for 7 generations, its had 3 new handles and 4 new heads.
https://www.facebook.com/onlyfoolsandhorses/videos/1266983796705542/
The puzzle actually has its origins in ancient Greek philosophy. The problem was most famously stated as the 'Ship of Theseus': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
Tip-top chin stroking action from the boy Hill.
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
I don't like having to sit at one end of the ground.
Won't we be having to do that at most grounds next season?
I doubt it. Example Southport - I sit in the main stand. We got a side-on view at Kidderminster last time. It'll happen at FCUM and Chester though.
Is the main stand not an option at Boston?
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
I don't like having to sit at one end of the ground.
Won't we be having to do that at most grounds next season?
I doubt it. Example Southport - I sit in the main stand. We got a side-on view at Kidderminster last time. It'll happen at FCUM and Chester though.
Is the main stand not an option at Boston?
I think that is for home supporters only. The last time I went there was a segregated area for away supporters behind the goal, towards a corner, which was part of the older stand and the paddock in front.
I read once this was the original main stand and was along the side until the pitch was turned around in the seventies so they could develop the ground.
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
I don't like having to sit at one end of the ground.
Won't we be having to do that at most grounds next season?
I doubt it. Example Southport - I sit in the main stand. We got a side-on view at Kidderminster last time. It'll happen at FCUM and Chester though.
Is the main stand not an option at Boston?
It wasn't last time I went.
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Its a bit like when someone gets a patch of turf for a memento, at the end of the day a lot of pitches are completely relayed.
Like the irish tale,
I've had this spade in our family for 7 generations, its had 3 new handles and 4 new heads.
https://www.facebook.com/onlyfoolsandhorses/videos/1266983796705542/
The puzzle actually has its origins in ancient Greek philosophy. The problem was most famously stated as the 'Ship of Theseus': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
Magnificent stuff, Jimmy ;D ;D ;D
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New venues for me are potentially Spennymoor, Darlington, York, and Hereford. I haven't been to FCUM, and won't be doing unless it's crucial.
I may also skip three other grounds I'm not keen on : Bradford PA, Boston, and Brackley.
What's wrong with Boston??
I don't like having to sit at one end of the ground.
Won't we be having to do that at most grounds next season?
I doubt it. Example Southport - I sit in the main stand. We got a side-on view at Kidderminster last time. It'll happen at FCUM and Chester though.
Is the main stand not an option at Boston?
It wasn't last time I went.
On second thoughts I don't think it'd be an enjoyable experience sat amongst Boston supporters!
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If a ground is on the same site, it's the same ground. It's just been refurbished. Forget all this nonsense about where the pitch is!