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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: rorysgrandad on September 18, 2022, 05:05:17 PM
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Only reason I’m starting the thread so early is because we need to get as many people down on Saturday as we can. It’s an international break and both United and City fans will be without any live football.
Hope the club will be dangling the carrot of premier league season ticket holder price reductions as an enticement to lure some in.
At £19 a pop we won’t be getting much impulse buying from passing trade.
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I was stood next to some casual attendees on Tuesday. They could'nt believe they'd paid £19 to get in.
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I can't see past a 2 1 defeat :-[ hope I'm wrong
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I can't see past a 2 1 defeat :-[ hope I'm wrong
You are. We'll win this (just about!)
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Aldershot are poor. Unless there is a dramatic change to our squad, I can see another draw.
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If they can get ahead I hope they have learned from the S****horpe game and don't sit back.
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Aldershot are poor. Unless there is a dramatic change to our squad, I can see another draw.
If Aldershot are poor not sure where that leaves Halifax.
They looked pretty handy up front five times.
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Huge game for us.
Heart say 2-1 win, head says a draw
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Quite astonishingly, we have re-signed Byron Harrison.
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Quite astonishingly, we have re-signed Byron Harrison.
Absolutely dumbstruck. I don't know what to say.
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Quite astonishingly, we have re-signed Byron Harrison.
Released by Boston recently . Zak Goodson injured or out of favour already ?
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Didn't follow the game so only just looked up the result. Bet that was a tense one. Four teams on eight points now. Never a better chance to kick on and get clear.
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Zooming up the league! 😉
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Couldn't go today.
How did young Jake Cooper do?
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Jake Cooper was excellent IMHO
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A win is a win and hopefully will boost confidence. Glad Cooper started as I think thats our best back four.
There's no way Sami or Hussain are can be as poor as Jackson.
Con-Clarke was our MOM by a distance.
Signing Harrison is utterly bizarre.
If we continue to move the ball in such a pedestrian way we won't win many more.
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Dear God, that was painful to watch. Two desperately poor teams.
The only emotion at the final whistle was one of sheer relief.
I suspect that we wouldn't have won that game if it had stayed as 11 versus 11, particularly as Whelan looked to be their most skilful player.
That was a dreadfully soft penalty to concede from their point of view, too.
After scoring, we then proceeded to undertake a nervy retreat and you had a horrible feeling that they might sneak an eleventh-hour equaliser.
So, a win at long last but we still look at least four players short of being a team that won't be embroiled in a relegation battle for the remainder of this season.
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Quite astonishingly, we have re-signed Byron Harrison.
Can anyone else hear the bottom of a barrel being scraped?
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A win is a win and hopefully will boost confidence. Glad Cooper started as I think thats our best back four.
There's no way Sami or Hussain are can be as poor as Jackson.
Con-Clarke was our MOM by a distance.
Signing Harrison is utterly bizarre.
If we continue to move the ball in such a pedestrian way we won't win many more.
Kaja is injured.
Not sure if Sami played for the reserves
Cooper was good
Ryan was deservedly MoM he is head and shoulders better than all our squad
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We were dire in the first half. Only a couple of efforts on target. The sending off was a game changer. We didn't look any better than the Shots but they have lost seven games so far.
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A win is a win and hopefully will boost confidence. Glad Cooper started as I think thats our best back four.
There's no way Sami or Hussain are can be as poor as Jackson.
Con-Clarke was our MOM by a distance.
Signing Harrison is utterly bizarre.
If we continue to move the ball in such a pedestrian way we won't win many more.
Kaja is injured.
Not sure if Sami played for the reserves
Cooper was good
Ryan was deservedly MoM he is head and shoulders better than all our squad
Sami was on pitch at the final whistle. Hussain played for the reserves.
Colclough is indeed head and shoulders above all others, but you wouldn't win a game with 11 of him on the pitch. You might with 11 Lundstrams.
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We huffed and puffed our way to a hard won victory of two sides who are going to have to improve considerably to escape a relegation battle.
We have very good players who are missing with long term injuries. We also have players who are not fit enough for this league.
Unfortunately we also have players who (regardless of fitness) are simply not good enough for this league.
Dinanga is desperately lacking support up top. The guy is always on his heels instead of being on his toes ready to react.
Barrows needs to read the game better, the number of times Coco was urging him to push on past him but he didn’t seem to do it naturally.
We seem unable to get the pace of passes on our pitch, how many times did Osbourne take corners and his kick was far to high/far for anyone to get near to it.
What surface do the lads train on? Is it similar to our pitch or is it on an artificial surface?
I’m not sure watering the pitch on match days is beneficial, players were slipping on numerous occasions,. Just leave the bloody thing alone until after the game.
At the end of the day we gained 3 valuable points. The game ended to a communal sigh of relief.
Would we have won if it had remained 11 v 11? I will leave that to you forumites to unpick.
Onwards and Upwards (albeit by one place) but I’ll take that right now.
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Dear God, that was painful to watch. Two desperately poor teams.
The only emotion at the final whistle was one of sheer relief.
I suspect that we wouldn't have won that game if it had stayed as 11 versus 11, particularly as Whelan looked to be their most skilful player.
That was a dreadfully soft penalty to concede from their point of view, too.
After scoring, we then proceeded to undertake a nervy retreat and you had a horrible feeling that they might sneak an eleventh-hour equaliser.
So, a win at long last but we still look at least four players short of being a team that won't be embroiled in a relegation battle for the remainder of this season.
Agreed
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We huffed and puffed our way to a hard won victory of two sides who are going to have to improve considerably to escape a relegation battle.
We have very good players who are missing with long term injuries. We also have players who are not fit enough for this league.
Unfortunately we also have players who (regardless of fitness) are simply not good enough for this league.
Dinanga is desperately lacking support up top. The guy is always on his heels instead of being on his toes ready to react.
Barrows needs to read the game better, the number of times Coco was urging him to push on past him but he didn’t seem to do it naturally.
We seem unable to get the pace of passes on our pitch, how many times did Osbourne take corners and his kick was far to high/far for anyone to get near to it.
What surface do the lads train on? Is it similar to our pitch or is it on an artificial surface?
I’m not sure watering the pitch on match days is beneficial, players were slipping on numerous occasions,. Just leave the bloody thing alone until after the game.
At the end of the day we gained 3 valuable points. The game ended to a communal sigh of relief.
Would we have won if it had remained 11 v 11? I will leave that to you forumites to unpick.
Onwards and Upwards (albeit by one place) but I’ll take that right now.
Agree with this also
3 points most welcome and deserved today, but cannot hel p but think the game had 0-0 all over it if their player did not commit to an act of stupidity
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We simply had to win that one and we did.
As Cult said, two poor sides but we can worry about putting on more of a show when we're out of the drop zone (at least a fortnight away imho). For now I'm just grateful for the three points.
By the way, I think that's our best back four at the moment and we should stick with it (and Byrne behind them).
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Didn't follow the game so only just looked up the result. Bet that was a tense one. Four teams on eight points now. Never a better chance to kick on and get clear.
We're only 5 points behind 13th place. There are a lot of mediocre teams in this league.
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When we keep passing the ball between the back four and the keeper, opponents become canny as to how we like to play so they press us which leads to us then kicking the ball long and hope our lone striker can hold it up. Which then usually ends up with us conceding possession again.
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Yes, you could see how it was two teams near the bottom, but in the second half we completely dominated, and the final score was only kept close by the efforts of Luca Ashby-Hammond in goal, who was easily the man of the match Having a one man advantage doesn't necessarily work to a team's advantage either - see the Maidstone game at the start of this season.
I had hoped we would sign more experienced players than the young loanees from Stoke; Byron Harrison wasn't exactly what I had in mind, but he did nothing wrong when he came on, as I recall, and didn't panic or lose the ball. Also, as others have said, Jake Cooper had a very good game, while Dinanga was desperately unlucky not to score.
There's a long way to go yet, of course, but, without getting carried away, this does give me some grounds for optimism, which has been short recently.
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Didn't get to the game. We needed a win and got one. We can worry about how we got the win but I hope the players are reflecting on a win tonight and getting all the positives out of the game that they can.
They can take that into the County game and Gateshead.
Come on Alty.
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How many seasons have we seen Alty start badly and actually do OK? Think of the Evogluesticksh*t league even.
Not being complacent, but hoping today is a turning point we have seen so often before at a similar stage in the season.
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We'll probably get nothing at Notts so today's win was essential.
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A marathon not a sprint. Still, wouldn't it be sweet to get something at Meadow Lane after Phil turning them down!
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A marathon not a sprint. Still, wouldn't it be sweet to get something at Meadow Lane after Phil turning them down!
It would be sweet - but their home record of 3 wins and a draw against Chesterfield doesn't encourage optimism.
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A marathon not a sprint. Still, wouldn't it be sweet to get something at Meadow Lane after Phil turning them down!
It would be sweet - but their home record of 3 wins and a draw against Chesterfield doesn't encourage optimism.
First that was a huge win yesterday. It was never going to be a free flowing exhibition of champagne football but a win and a first home clean sheet of the season shows the resilience and the spirit of the lads. As for next Saturday sure it’ll be a tall order but if we can draw and come close to winning at two play off teams like Bromley and Boreham Wood already this season then no reason why we can’t give the Pies a good game. Granted I saw them on the highlights at York last night and going forward they look mustard. If we can give a good account of ourselves it sets us up nicely for the 4 big games that follow before our trip to FC Hollywood at the end of October.
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I thought the letter in the NLP about us going full time was, at least, very misjudged.
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Am I alone in being concerned / confused by the apparent increase in injuries suffered since we went full time.
Of our 'serious' ones I can think of only one sustained during a match
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I thought the letter in the NLP about us going full time was, at least, very misjudged.
Give us a clue, who said what.
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Difficult to fathom some of the less-than-impressed comments that appeared on here (and on the fans' FB site) after yesterday's win. Two poorly performing clubs desperately in need of a win to boost their league position (and their confidence) was always likely to result in a cagey and error-strewn encounter. And that, indeed, was how the first half played out. However, to suggest that this continued for the full 90 is simply not true. What we saw in the S/H was a gritty determination and a team who had realised that they needed to get more than just a draw from the game; play was far more direct and the players appeared willing to get stuck in and to take responsibility. On the sending off, I'm not convinced that the perceived advantage of playing against 10 men is as significant as is always stated, and so I'm not going to use it as a reason to take anything away from Alty. More important to mention is their keeper who did a fine job of keeping them in the game. It's not rose-tinted to say that on another day we could have had at least two more. Colclough and CCC were both major contributors yesterday and I'm going to buck the trend of slating Jackson and say that I thought he did his job as well as anybody and posed questions with his crossing the ball. Finally, I'd be happy to see Mullarky take on the responsibility of Captain; I think he is closer to the mould of Moult in terms of leadership, and Hulme is out of the game or injured far too much.
Moving forward, I think we should expect to get nothing at Notts next week, but better opportunities exist in the games that follow. Looking at the league as it stands currently, I can see little to separate the teams in the bottom third (or even, half) so let's hope we can string a couple of wins together and ease the pressure.
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I thought the letter in the NLP about us going full time was, at least, very misjudged.
Give us a clue, who said what.
'going full time was supposed to be the beginning of a new era at altrincham but from what I've seen so far this season, I'd be happy for them to go back to the part time model.
Yes it was always going to take time to adjust to the new model but the national league is not a very forgiving league and if we're not careful then we could be back in the national league north. "
John Welsh via email
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Thank god for 3 points but we weren't good. First half was poor and thankfully we played the second against 10 men.
As mentioned before, get Osborne off corners, terrible.
Pringle made the difference, deserves a few games as No.10. He is always there and is positive in his play. It was a painful watch until he came one.
I agree about Barrows, potential but needs to get forward. Both fullbacks need to get forward more.
Very worrying that we have re-signed Harrison. Dinanga is rubbish, he is a poacher but not intelligent enough in his movement.
Can the club gives us an update on injuries please? The Fanzone? and sort the queues out for a drink at HT. Mentioned a 100 times, pre pour pint machines, bottle bar...It would make the club more money and simple enough to install.
I want to be positive but I am really concerned and can't see us going on any run. However I do believe we are only 4 fit players short of being a side good enough to stay up. CM,LB,No.10 and striker.
Kossy, Marriott and a fit Hulme would fill 3 of the roles but we need them roles filling until they become available. Also need to make a decision on Kaja and his fitness, good player but a career of injuries.
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Thank god for 3 points but we weren't good. First half was poor and thankfully we played the second against 10 men.
As mentioned before, get Osborne off corners, terrible.
Pringle made the difference, deserves a few games as No.10. He is always there and is positive in his play. It was a painful watch until he came one.
I agree about Barrows, potential but needs to get forward. Both fullbacks need to get forward more.
Very worrying that we have re-signed Harrison. Dinanga is rubbish, he is a poacher but not intelligent enough in his movement.
Can the club gives us an update on injuries please? The Fanzone? and sort the queues out for a drink at HT. Mentioned a 100 times, pre pour pint machines, bottle bar...It would make the club more money and simple enough to install.
I want to be positive but I am really concerned and can't see us going on any run. However I do believe we are only 4 fit players short of being a side good enough to stay up. CM,LB,No.10 and striker.
Kossy, Marriott and a fit Hulme would fill 3 of the roles but we need them roles filling until they become available. Also need to make a decision on Kaja and his fitness, good player but a career of injuries.
Good post.
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Got to my first game in nearly 4 years yesterday. Really nice to be back. As far as the game goes as has been stated earlier it looked like a game between 2 struggling sides. I think the sending off gave us more space to settle and try and play our game a bit. Their keeper kept them in it second half. Anyway it was a win. Other observations, decent crowd, respect to the Aldershot fans. The Popular Side looks so tired and dilapidated. The sooner we can find some investment for the ground it has to be first to go! Good to see some familiar faces and meet some new ones. One last thing, Parky has got us here and must be allowed the time and patience to get the job done.
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Got to my first game in nearly 4 years yesterday. Really nice to be back. As far as the game goes as has been stated earlier it looked like a game between 2 struggling sides. I think the sending off gave us more space to settle and try and play our game a bit. Their keeper kept them in it second half. Anyway it was a win. Other observations, decent crowd, respect to the Aldershot fans. The Popular Side looks so tired and dilapidated. The sooner we can find some investment for the ground it has to be first to go! Good to see some familiar faces and meet some new ones. One last thing, Parky has got us here and must be allowed the time and patience to get the job done.
good post but what is our game at the moment ? We can't rely on having an extra man every game and even with 1 extra for 50 minutes we still only won 1 nil
We need reinforcements and quickly and not old players who didn't perform last time
As for the ground i agree to have to walk all the way from the pop side near chequers to the watmore lounge for a wee is embarrassing for 19 quid
You could throw a million at moss lane and it would not scratch the sides
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The place needs totally rebuilding. good jobs there's a plan, or at least was a plan. Seems an eternity since that shiny presentation in the CSH.
As for all the things people aren't happy with and the seeming lack of communication from the board, could it be something with so many directors living so far away from the club that they just don't have (dare I say it) that match day experience? Bill used to read this forum and regularly reply to posts. Doesn't seem to happen anymore.
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I repeat, aren't there a couple of portaloos in the fanzone corner? Iff they're not operational (or indeed not portaloos), that at least is surely something that might be rectified for the short term.
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The place needs totally rebuilding. good jobs there's a plan, or at least was a plan. Seems an eternity since that shiny presentation in the CSH.
As for all the things people aren't happy with and the seeming lack of communication from the board, could it be something with so many directors living so far away from the club that they just don't have (dare I say it) that match day experience? Bill used to read this forum and regularly reply to posts. Doesn't seem to happen anymore.
I’m not sure the chairman of a club is obliged to keep updating a fans forum, however I do agree that his visits to the forum are less frequent since the full time model was introduced.
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Got to my first game in nearly 4 years yesterday. Really nice to be back. As far as the game goes as has been stated earlier it looked like a game between 2 struggling sides. I think the sending off gave us more space to settle and try and play our game a bit. Their keeper kept them in it second half. Anyway it was a win. Other observations, decent crowd, respect to the Aldershot fans. The Popular Side looks so tired and dilapidated. The sooner we can find some investment for the ground it has to be first to go! Good to see some familiar faces and meet some new ones. One last thing, Parky has got us here and must be allowed the time and patience to get the job done.
good post but what is our game at the moment ? We can't rely on having an extra man every game and even with 1 extra for 50 minutes we still only won 1 nil
We need reinforcements and quickly and not old players who didn't perform last time
As for the ground i agree to have to walk all the way from the pop side near chequers to the watmore lounge for a wee is embarrassing for 19 quid
You could throw a million at moss lane and it would not scratch the sides
I’ve said it before but the last time the spectating facilities (so I don’t mean the CSH obviously) were significantly improved was the mid 1990s when the middle of the Pop Side was extended and the then Family Stand was built. Since then in 25 years of the Berman/Goodwin/Rowley and now the current regime the ground has gradually gone backwards. Obviously with us having just gone FT and with the training ground hire I doubt we have the cash to do anything in the immediate future but we really need a lucrative cup run or something to begin to modernise it.
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Said this a number of times before , but still no toilet facilities for seated fans ,and with the tannoy announcements not to use the one near the press area , there's just one gangway in use for EVERYONE to get through ,it becomes a bit of a bottleneck and at half time especially it causes dozens of fans to get back to their seats after the play restarts . At least put a couple of portaloos between the two seated stands , there is room .
Please !!!
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Reminds me of Holker Street. The first time I went, there were both (some) seats and a roof behind the goal, then both disappeared. They are back now, albeit a basic roof. I think Rockingham Road seemed to get worse too.
Toilets for the seating area is urgent now with segregation for almost every match.
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I saw someone usee the portaloo next to the fanzone on Saturday. I presume it is there for the builders.
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Thank God for 3 points but we weren't good. First half was poor and thankfully we played the second against 10 men.
As mentioned before, get Osborne off corners, terrible.
Pringle made the difference, deserves a few games as No.10. He is always there and is positive in his play. It was a painful watch until he came one.
I agree about Barrows, potential but needs to get forward. Both fullbacks need to get forward more.
Very worrying that we have re-signed Harrison. Dinanga is rubbish, he is a poacher but not intelligent enough in his movement.
Can the club gives us an update on injuries please? The Fanzone? and sort the queues out for a drink at HT. Mentioned a 100 times, pre pour pint machines, bottle bar...It would make the club more money and simple enough to install.
I want to be positive but I am really concerned and can't see us going on any run. However I do believe we are only 4 fit players short of being a side good enough to stay up. CM,LB,No.10 and striker.
Kossy, Marriott and a fit Hulme would fill 3 of the roles but we need them roles filling until they become available. Also need to make a decision on Kaja and his fitness, good player but a career of injuries.
Good post.
I must admit I wondered why they persisted with Osborne on corners.
I remember when we used to do the SharrattTerry corner, Harris flick-on and Green header. So far as I can tell, it worked because Harris was brilliant at getting a good flick-on (also, Heathcote used to put in a really good cross in training - maybe something rubbed off on the players?). In later years, we went through a spell where we had a lot of corners described as "self-clearing". Seriously, when was the last time we had a really effective corner routine? If it's on any of the seasons that feature on Alty TV since 2011, I'd be interested to take a look.
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Got to my first game in nearly 4 years yesterday. Really nice to be back. As far as the game goes as has been stated earlier it looked like a game between 2 struggling sides. I think the sending off gave us more space to settle and try and play our game a bit. Their keeper kept them in it second half. Anyway it was a win. Other observations, decent crowd, respect to the Aldershot fans. The Popular Side looks so tired and dilapidated. The sooner we can find some investment for the ground it has to be first to go! Good to see some familiar faces and meet some new ones. One last thing, Parky has got us here and must be allowed the time and patience to get the job done.
good post but what is our game at the moment ? We can't rely on having an extra man every game and even with 1 extra for 50 minutes we still only won 1 nil
We need reinforcements and quickly and not old players who didn't perform last time
As for the ground i agree to have to walk all the way from the pop side near chequers to the watmore lounge for a wee is embarrassing for 19 quid
You could throw a million at moss lane and it would not scratch the sides
I’ve said it before but the last time the spectating facilities (so I don’t mean the CSH obviously) were significantly improved was the mid 1990s when the middle of the Pop Side was extended and the then Family Stand was built. Since then in 25 years of the Berman/Goodwin/Rowley and now the current regime the ground has gradually gone backwards. Obviously with us having just gone FT and with the training ground hire I doubt we have the cash to do anything in the immediate future but we really need a lucrative cup run or something to begin to modernise it.
A couple of years ago a new pitch perimeter fence was installed
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Which was not as good as the old fence. Or so I always thought.
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I saw someone usee the portaloo next to the fanzone on Saturday. I presume it is there for the builders.
No, they are for match days.
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My buddy built the new perimeter fences, we gave him a roasting (maybe that's not the right word ::) these days?) as resting a hot drink on a round top is a right faff, not yet mastered :-[
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Which was not as good as the old fence. Or so I always thought.
How many folk singers does it take to build a perimeter fence ?
Ten - two to do the actual building work, and eight to sing about how good the old one was.
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Even Kier Starmer couldn’t sit on our perimeter fence 😀
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Even Kier Starmer couldn’t sit on our perimeter fence 😀
But he'd die trying !