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Title: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on April 13, 2023, 09:37:50 AM
Tough away day, there recent for is good whilst ours is Patchy at best. They will be looking for 3 points to ease relegation jitters.

Hopefully we'll play a strong team to get us over the line. Barring injuries would go with

                     Byrne

 MWH Perritt Baines Jones

      Lundstram Marriott

                Maxi

Hulme      Linney     Sinclair

If baines injured then Ferguson

They have a leakier defence than ours, lets get after them.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on April 13, 2023, 09:50:02 AM
I assume James Jones is banned for 3 games then?

That would be my team.

Dorking 3-4 Alty (Linney x2, Hulme, Sinclair)

Good luck and safe journey to all
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 13, 2023, 06:41:34 PM
I guess it's back to Osborne on the left wing then.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 13, 2023, 06:55:06 PM
I guess it's back to Osborne on the left wing then.

I'd try Hugill out there - see my post on the other thread.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 13, 2023, 07:15:26 PM
Give Goodson a run. We've surely got to start with at least one winger?
Surely we couldn't start Osborne?
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 13, 2023, 10:02:40 PM
Give Goodson a run. We've surely got to start with at least one winger?
Surely we couldn't start Osborne?

Goodson is out on loan at Spennymoor.

I think it would be good for Aaron Bennett to get a good hour or so in the tank as he gets back to full fitness.

We may go three at the back again if Baines is available, meaning we'd do away with wingers anyway.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on April 14, 2023, 06:47:51 PM
Now we have lost Sinclair, then stick to wingbacks, even though I would always choose wingers

                                 Bynre

           Jones            Ferguson       Baines

MWH              Marriott     Lunstram              E.Jones

                                Oyedele

                   Hulme               Linney
     
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on April 14, 2023, 06:58:14 PM
Now we have lost Sinclair, then stick to wingbacks, even though I would always choose wingers

                                 Bynre

           Jones            Ferguson       Baines

MWH              Marriott     Lunstram              E.Jones

                                Oyedele

                   Hulme               Linney
     

That's not such a bad team to be honest.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 14, 2023, 07:20:11 PM
Now we have lost Sinclair, then stick to wingbacks, even though I would always choose wingers

                                 Bynre

           Jones            Ferguson       Baines

MWH              Marriott     Lunstram              E.Jones

                                Oyedele

                   Hulme               Linney
     


Isn't James Jones suspended though?
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 14, 2023, 08:41:38 PM
Think he's thinking of Perritt rather than James Jones? That's what I'd go with.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on April 15, 2023, 12:25:31 PM
Yeah, sorry, put Perritt in for suspended Jones.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on April 15, 2023, 01:56:15 PM
I think James Jones might be banned for 4, having been sent off twice
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 15, 2023, 02:05:02 PM
We'd better hope that this line up comes up with the goods then. It's virtually the only option we're left with.

Come on you Robins, bring us home some points! 👍🇦🇹
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 15, 2023, 02:52:08 PM
Looking at the BBC site, looks like we're going 4-2-1-3 ... Linney in, Ferguson not. 🤔
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 15, 2023, 03:19:17 PM
By the way things are going, we're going to win this 7-5! 😉



PS. I'd settle for us winning 2-1 though 😉
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on April 15, 2023, 04:30:56 PM
is the 7-5 back on now?
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Strong summer needed on April 15, 2023, 04:31:02 PM
Garbage
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 15, 2023, 04:52:47 PM
Sorry for jinxing us folks! 🙄😔
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on April 15, 2023, 04:56:46 PM
i'm looking forward to the post-match interview.
i wonder which combination of options it will be today?

bad performance/bad result bad ref
great performance/bad result/ bad ref
bad performance/great result/great ref(prob not this one)
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on April 15, 2023, 05:04:33 PM
Hopefully changes are afoot. We can’t go on conceding goals like we do. It’s ridiculous. I don’t want to hear we are a young side or we haven’t got as much  money to spend on players etc. Even if it’s true, I’m sick of hearing this mantra
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on April 15, 2023, 05:07:48 PM
The word 'sh*t' will probably suffice.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Knutty robin on April 15, 2023, 05:08:37 PM
I certainly think a more commanding goalkeeper would help
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on April 15, 2023, 05:10:59 PM
We can't keep blaming the keeper though; there's clearly an issue at the back - no combination of centre backs has worked this season.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 15, 2023, 05:12:35 PM
We can't keep blaming the keeper though; there's clearly an issue at the back - no combination of centre backs has worked this season.

So it's the keeper then.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on April 15, 2023, 05:29:44 PM
We can't keep blaming the keeper though; there's clearly an issue at the back - no combination of centre backs has worked this season.

Very important for CB's to trust their keeper.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: finnquark1 on April 15, 2023, 05:51:23 PM
Needs to be some degree of change over the summer if we want to be a stable top half side next year. I'd love to hear more about the rationale behind not practising set pieces, but simply to provide players the information they need. I wonder how far that applies to other areas of our game. Thinking back to Sinnott's absurd 20/20 pledge, something just focused on the number of goals conceded will be something I'm looking for next season. I'm guessing the budget won't stretch, but maybe some external help is required to coach the side on defensive aspects of the game. Anyway, what was looking like a good, exciting end to the season a month ago is now pestering out into nothingness and a team finishing 18th is a lot less attractive than one finishing 12th, so it's a bit naff all round really.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on April 15, 2023, 05:52:31 PM
Utter tosh after 7 mins.

Linneys goal was f**king magical though. Let's build around him in the pre season up front.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 15, 2023, 05:57:55 PM
If we're going to be a top half club next season it's likely to be in National North. It is absolutely essential that we beat Dagenham on Tuesday, because if Torquay and Aldershot are still within catching distance they'll fight like tigers in our last two games.


There was talk on here about us relegating Aldershot on the last day of the season. On current form it isn't impossible that it could be the other way round.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 15, 2023, 06:10:01 PM
If we're going to be a top half club next season it's likely to be in National North. It is absolutely essential that we beat Dagenham on Tuesday, because if Torquay and Aldershot are still within catching distance they'll fight like tigers in our last two games.


There was talk on here about us relegating Aldershot on the last day of the season. On current form it isn't impossible that it could be the other way round.

Don't be daft.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 15, 2023, 06:12:34 PM
We're nowhere near going down but, sadly, my earlier gloomy prediction re the last four league games is 25% correct already.
Would be lovely to reach 60 points but I'm a touch sanguine on that front.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on April 15, 2023, 06:31:40 PM
sadly we are not safe yet
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 15, 2023, 06:43:56 PM
If we're going to be a top half club next season it's likely to be in National North. It is absolutely essential that we beat Dagenham on Tuesday, because if Torquay and Aldershot are still within catching distance they'll fight like tigers in our last two games.


There was talk on here about us relegating Aldershot on the last day of the season. On current form it isn't impossible that it could be the other way round.

Don't be daft.

We're not mathematically safe, and until we are we should take nothing for granted. Provided Torquay don't perform some sort of miracle at Wrexham we should survive, but we have a lot to sort out this summer.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 15, 2023, 07:16:00 PM
At the risk of being thought a 'happy clapper', it's been a very difficult year of transition to full time but I've got total confidence in the Club and the management duo to sort things out with much needed summer recruitment so that we can become less dependent on the loan market and can stabilise in (at least) midtable.




(Steps back and braces himself for mockery)
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on April 15, 2023, 07:16:13 PM
If we're going to be a top half club next season it's likely to be in National North. It is absolutely essential that we beat Dagenham on Tuesday, because if Torquay and Aldershot are still within catching distance they'll fight like tigers in our last two games.


There was talk on here about us relegating Aldershot on the last day of the season. On current form it isn't impossible that it could be the other way round.

Don't be daft.

We're not mathematically safe, and until we are we should take nothing for granted. Provided Torquay don't perform some sort of miracle at Wrexham we should survive, but we have a lot to sort out this summer.

Starting to physically practice defending set pieces instead of talking about it would be a good start.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: wayno on April 15, 2023, 07:41:38 PM
At the risk of being thought a 'happy clapper', it's been a very difficult year of transition to full time but I've got total confidence in the Club and the management duo to sort things out with much needed summer recruitment so that we can become less dependent on the loan market and can stabilise in (at least) midtable.




(Steps back and braces himself for mockery)
at the start of the season I just wanted us to survive our first season as a full time team . Whilst not done and dusted yet that looks highly likely.

We must be sat on some money at the club aren't we ?

What with the shares scheme and player sales (an issue for us now as we are full time and our best players are there for the talking not an issue when we were part time)

And if we are sat on money we need to put it at Phil's disposal this summer to push on
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on April 15, 2023, 08:56:19 PM
If we're going to be a top half club next season it's likely to be in National North. It is absolutely essential that we beat Dagenham on Tuesday, because if Torquay and Aldershot are still within catching distance they'll fight like tigers in our last two games.


There was talk on here about us relegating Aldershot on the last day of the season. On current form it isn't impossible that it could be the other way round.

Don't be daft.

We're not mathematically safe, and until we are we should take nothing for granted. Provided Torquay don't perform some sort of miracle at Wrexham we should survive, but we have a lot to sort out this summer.

Starting to physically practice defending set pieces instead of talking about it would be a good start.

Speaking of which, does anyone know if we're still allowed to actually watch training sessions? I used to watch them sometimes when they had them at ML, and from by the Brook when they were at the gas works place (I could probably actually have watched from Timperley!). Heathcote always used to tell them to "hit the target" at shooting practise, and was much the best at putting a cross in. He seemed to get them well organised too. The best time was when I saw them practising a move where a player broke away down the right wing towards the corner, back-heeled to a player running up behind him who put it straight into the box. As I remember, they actually used this in the next matc, I think at Farnborough in the FAT, lwhich actually led to a goal (as some of you may remember). It would be interesting to get an idea of what goes on at training sessions these days.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on April 15, 2023, 09:18:02 PM
"It's a funny old game"
(J.G.)
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on April 15, 2023, 09:25:00 PM
We are stumbling over the finish line here & thank god for that mad week where we did Woking, Barnet & Solihull as at the moment it looks like we’ll only just stay up by maybe 3-4 points. It has been a hard year with player turnover like no other season I can recall, but we are full time now & to go to part time Dorking who played on Easter Mon then had one training session since & throw away a two goal lead is absolutely criminal. The worst part is it would have surprised absolutely none of us.

It doesn’t seem to matter who is available or plays in our defence you get two goals a game off us pretty cheaply (think of the two we let in at Oldham only last week). It’s alright saying we have a young squad & they will improve but our recent league games have been against sides around us in the table & we have taken 1/9. I well recall our last national league relegation, the prior season ended with a terrible run of form, we must arrest this slide on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 15, 2023, 10:01:31 PM
Sadly, I agree.
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on April 15, 2023, 10:54:48 PM
If we're going to be a top half club next season it's likely to be in National North. It is absolutely essential that we beat Dagenham on Tuesday, because if Torquay and Aldershot are still within catching distance they'll fight like tigers in our last two games.


There was talk on here about us relegating Aldershot on the last day of the season. On current form it isn't impossible that it could be the other way round.

This page (for one) should hopefully demonstrate that it is highly improbable that Altrincham will go down. And that's if we finish on 53 points, I still expect us to add to this. Too many teams need to get ahead of us in too few games.


https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/form-guide (https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/form-guide)
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on April 16, 2023, 09:33:12 AM
At the risk of being thought a 'happy clapper', it's been a very difficult year of transition to full time but I've got total confidence in the Club and the management duo to sort things out with much needed summer recruitment so that we can become less dependent on the loan market and can stabilise in (at least) midtable.
I totally agree,with you on this.




(Steps back and braces himself for mockery)
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 16, 2023, 10:28:43 AM
At the risk of being thought a 'happy clapper', it's been a very difficult year of transition to full time but I've got total confidence in the Club and the management duo to sort things out with much needed summer recruitment so that we can become less dependent on the loan market and can stabilise in (at least) midtable.
I totally agree,with you on this.




(Steps back and braces himself for mockery)

Thanks for that, H, I was beginning to think I was on my own in my opinion! 😉
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 16, 2023, 07:07:54 PM


For the masochists out there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36ArZbQfKto (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36ArZbQfKto)
Title: Re: Dorking Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on April 16, 2023, 08:48:11 PM


For the masochists out there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36ArZbQfKto (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36ArZbQfKto)

Parky was correct we had more than enough chances to win the game. Need to be better at both ends.