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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: markecky on January 05, 2008, 08:51:19 PM
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Today simply showed the gulf between the top and bottom sides in this league. We were niave to think we could get anything today.
Oxford were superbly organised, played good football, had more skillful players and did not let us get a kick.
Forget recent form, they are a team who will be in the playoffs.
They had a dream day.
1) Its an edgy start by both teams, we make a slip, the debutant strker bursts through to finish well.
2) Perfectly timed penalty on 41 mins, cooly despatched by the previously out of form striker to pep him up and put them in a strong position to relax
3) Second half, newly pepped up striker scores cracking goal to end match.
4) We keep chasing, get caught out they grab an easy fourth.
It was a textbook day for them. Yes we were poor but they never allowed us anything at all, and were suiitably above us skill wise to stop anything we did try.
Its the first time I have been to Oxford, the place is amazing. We have no right to expect anything there and we got nothing.
We must forget it and move on to Tuesday. We had the hardest game today of the bottom six and it showed.
Therewas nothing wrong with the tactics or the subs, we were simply beaten by a better side.
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Today simply showed the gulf between the top and bottom sides in this league. We were niave to think we could get anything today.
Oxford were superbly organised, played good football, had more skillful players and did not let us get a kick.
Forget recent form, they are a team who will be in the playoffs.
They had a dream day.
1) Its an edgy start by both teams, we make a slip, the debutant strker bursts through to finish well.
2) Perfectly timed penalty on 41 mins, cooly despatched by the previously out of form striker to pep him up and put them in a strong position to relax
3) Second half, newly pepped up striker scores cracking goal to end match.
4) We keep chasing, get caught out they grab an easy fourth.
It was a textbook day for them. Yes we were poor but they never allowed us anything at all, and were suiitably above us skill wise to stop anything we did try.
Its the first time I have been to Oxford, the place is amazing. We have no right to expect anything there and we got nothing.
We must forget it and move on to Tuesday. We had the hardest game today of the bottom six and it showed.
Therewas nothing wrong with the tactics or the subs, we were simply beaten by a better side.
I'm sorry but I can't agree with the last comment about nothing being wrong with the tactics or subs, why at 2-0 down, or even 3-0 down when we were clearly getting nothing from the game and didn't look close to scoring did he not change it up a little??? Where was his contingency plan?? There is no point in just lying down and accepting that they are the better side and letting them roll us over, lets get at them and give it a go, we had nothing to lose today, especially after we were 2 down at half time!
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If we had made any changes I believe they would have beaten us 7-0.
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If we had made any changes I believe they would have beaten us 7-0.
They may have done, I just thought we were too negative today, even considering we were away from home. We seemed to lack belief from the off, we didn't trouble them once (bar robbie's spurned header).
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They had a dream day.
Unfortunately, most teams we have encountered this season enjoy a dream day with our 'defence'!
Its the first time I have been to Oxford, the place is amazing. We have no right to expect anything there and we got nothing.
Ecky, their radio commentators and 'pundits' were genuinely surprised by how poor Alty were.
Perhaps they expected more from us based on the battling draw achieved there last season?
We must forget it and move on to Tuesday. We had the hardest game today of the bottom six and it showed.
Surely Vics being at home to the league leaders with the best away record in the BSP was a trickier task, particularly as, prior to this afternoon, mid table Oxford had been finding scoring goals even more difficult than us?!
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They had a dream day.
Unfortunately, most teams we have encountered this season enjoy a dream day with our 'defence'!
Its the first time I have been to Oxford, the place is amazing. We have no right to expect anything there and we got nothing.
Ecky, their radio commentators and 'pundits' were genuinely surprised by how poor Alty were.
Perhaps they expected more from us based on the battling draw achieved there last season?
We must forget it and move on to Tuesday. We had the hardest game today of the bottom six and it showed.
Surely Vics being at home to the league leaders with the best away record in the BSP was a trickier task, particularly as, prior to this afternoon, mid table Oxford had been finding scoring goals even more difficult than us?!
We were apalling and never tried to really get at them, we hardly got in their box all game, it just simply wasn't good enough.
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The radio commentary made us sound appalling, but I'd rather go with the point of view of someone with reasonable perspective & who was there.
We are in a small league at the bottom end of the table & cannot reasonably compete with such teams on a regular basis. It sounds, as I suggested earlier, that we ignore Oxford's recent run of form and realise that today is the real Oxford (now they have recovered from Jim Smith)
Quite simply,although we appear to have been below par, ultimately Oxford were a very good team today
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We are in a small league at the bottom end of the table & cannot reasonably compete with such teams on a regular basis. It sounds, as I suggested earlier, that we ignore Oxford's recent run of form and realise that today is the real Oxford (now they have recovered from Jim Smith)
Well, as long as they thrash Weymouth on Tuesday night then.......
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We are in a small league at the bottom end of the table & cannot reasonably compete with such teams on a regular basis. It sounds, as I suggested earlier, that we ignore Oxford's recent run of form and realise that today is the real Oxford (now they have recovered from Jim Smith)
Well, as long as they thrash Weymouth on Tuesday night then.......
They better bloody well do. (But they'll probably have a nightmare & lose 3-0!)
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The radio commentary made us sound appalling, but I'd rather go with the point of view of someone with reasonable perspective & who was there.
We are in a small league at the bottom end of the table & cannot reasonably compete with such teams on a regular basis. It sounds, as I suggested earlier, that we ignore Oxford's recent run of form and realise that today is the real Oxford (now they have recovered from Jim Smith)
I was also at the game Jenifers Dad!
I do not dismiss the fact that there is a gulf between the full time teams and us part timers, however I do not see the point in not trying something when we are 2-0 down and clearly on course to get nothing from the game! We were once again hoofing it all game, I thought we may have had put an end to that after NYD when we played some decent football at times. You aren't going to score against a mean defence by just hoofing at their centre backs to gobble up, which they happily did all day!!!
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Oxford were always going to come out of that run of form. Today was the day.
We were poor today. Although I just feel they were so full of confidence after the way the goals went they could enjoy it.
For me they simply had an answer for all we could conjur up. and to be honest so they should.
As for radio commentators and pundits, like all ex league teams, they treat Alty with distaste as though we have no right to be on the same pitch as them.
I'm as guilty as a lot of people on here. I let myself think we had a chance today. It was obvious from 5 minutes in that we did not.
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The radio commentary made us sound appalling, but I'd rather go with the point of view of someone with reasonable perspective & who was there.
We are in a small league at the bottom end of the table & cannot reasonably compete with such teams on a regular basis. It sounds, as I suggested earlier, that we ignore Oxford's recent run of form and realise that today is the real Oxford (now they have recovered from Jim Smith)
I was also at the game Jenifers Dad!
I do not dismiss the fact that there is a gulf between the full time teams and us part timers, however I do not see the point in not trying something when we are 2-0 down and clearly on course to get nothing from the game! We were once again hoofing it all game, I thought we may have had put an end to that after NYD when we played some decent football at times. You aren't going to score against a mean defence by just hoofing at their centre backs to gobble up, which they happily did all day!!!
Sorry Longman, I didn't realise you had gone.
As for the "Hoofing," I too hope we stop that peurile tactic. We can play better than that. It seems to be a panic tactic.
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For the second half we listened to the radio commentary as we were watching the match and forecasting the more 'interesting' bits to people around us.
The commentators knew nothing about us and was not watching the match properly (highlighted by the fact that mcfadden went off and up until the 88th minute was 'scampering down the wing after a good ball played by that defender')
Yes we were poor but apparently that was the best oxford have played all season. That is why they are mid-table.
Thought the new signings were good today, not as good as tuesday but we were playing a better team. Simple as.
King played ok and was unlucky to get booked, shotton was solid, jennings had a good game, Cahill wanted the ball and did a lot of running. If we had got the ball to him quicker things would have been different. Toulson also looked lively and played fairly well. Greg young played well when he came on and he looks rather fast.
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Yes we were poor but apparently that was the best oxford have played all season. That is why they are mid-table.
So lets just put this one down to experience & get on with beating Kiddie.
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"We have no right to expect anything there and we got nothing."
No wonder we've abandoned out FA Cup giant-killing status.
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"We have no right to expect anything there and we got nothing."
No wonder we've abandoned out FA Cup giant-killing status.
Thats what I was thinking, we have every right to get stuck in and give them a game.
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we should have had stephen rose marking yemi penatumbly.
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Get stuck in?
There was no lack of effort today.
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nice to know the new improved side is just as capable of getting stuffed as the old one
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If we'd got anything out of today would have been a bonus.
We started really slow and sluggish and let them boss the game (which they should do on paper) from the off.
Jenning and Lane were solid, Shotton didn't have his best 90 min but was ok. The problem in the back four is Tinson's lack of speed.Their 1st was down to this and their 3rd was down to him losing Duffy in the box.
Toulson (Our MOM @ Vics for me) never received the ball 1st half, 2nd half when he got in the game he put a couple of decent crosses in.
Peyton had a good 90 mins, the rest of them average.
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nice to know the new improved side is just as capable of getting stuffed as the old one
Not sure why that is nice to know
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C'mon. Lets get realistic. We are playing in a mini league of 6 clubs. End of. If we get points on anyone above those it's a bonus and something we should be proud of. This league is getting bigger than us (we being a part time club) and we are only playing for position number 22. Do we want this every season?
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nice to know the new improved side is just as capable of getting stuffed as the old one
Not sure why that is nice to know
There's been some overly negative stuff on here today
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no harm in people letting off steam. again can't find anything in my Bumper Book of Football Rule that says you have to be happy about your new improved team getting trounced.
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It's next to the page that says you have to make smart arse comments about it.
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Thanks for your kind comments about us, very well appreciated. You just came up against an Oxford side that we have not seen this season and that was very unlucky. Thought your fans made a fair bit of noise aswell. Best of luck on staying up and we'll do our best to beat Weymouth, however knowing Oxford we will lose. (p.s CANNOT see us making the playoffs)
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Haven't Northwich and Droylsden beaten Oxford this season?
That is all.
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For the first time this season I think that we really got rolled over yesterday.Oxford seemed to get the same boost from their two new signings that we got on New Year's Day from our four.Craig McCallister is a bit of a bogey player for us having scored vital goals for Woking in both games last season & I was certain that he would score & did advise the Oxford Mail reporter of this at the start of the game.Oxford were excellent to a man & whilst we didn't ask too many questions of their defence they looked very competent there & that is not where there problems have been.
I listened to the post match comments on the radio & they were highly derogatory about Altrincham, apart from one supporter who gave us a bit of credit for at least trying to play decent football compared to some teams that have visited The Kassam Stadium.The level of bias towards the local team & prejudice against the likes of Altrincham is frightening but hey ho.....our day will come......& so will theirs!!!
There were some positives.I thought Ryan Shotton had a decent game & I was impressed by James Jennings.Warren Peyton played superbly showing excellent control & touch & a level of composure that is often missing,probably because of a lack of confidence.I was very disappointed that Colin Little was ill as I thought that his partnership with Cahill was excellent against Northwich, whilst yesterday Cahill was the only outlet & therefore we were forced to try to reach him with a long ball into the left channel.Most of us got sucked in to believing we could get something yesterday when the reality was that we were always going to be up against it.
In summary a team that is underachieving by two points got well beaten on the day by a team that is underachieving by nine points!
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Thanks for your kind comments about us, very well appreciated. You just came up against an Oxford side that we have not seen this season and that was very unlucky. Thought your fans made a fair bit of noise aswell. Best of luck on staying up and we'll do our best to beat Weymouth, however knowing Oxford we will lose. (p.s CANNOT see us making the playoffs)
Only 96 of us through the away turnstyle and we can still make a racket!! We do like a sing song! :)
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Haven't Northwich and Droylsden beaten Oxford this season?
That is all.
If your point is we are a poor team - beating you 4-0 makes you?
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C'mon. Lets get realistic. We are playing in a mini league of 6 clubs. End of. If we get points on anyone above those it's a bonus and something we should be proud of. This league is getting bigger than us (we being a part time club) and we are only playing for position number 22. Do we want this every season?
Don't you mean position number20?
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Yep position 20. My maths is not one of my strong points. A few pints in my belly doesn't help as well.
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Haven't Northwich and Droylsden beaten Oxford this season?
That is all.
If your point is we are a poor team - beating you 4-0 makes you?
YusMad - I think his point is that WE are a poor team and whilst our relegation rivals have managed to beat you we got hammered 4-0, :-[
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That may be true, however we are in front of them and have picked up points elsewhere.
The lads need to forget the last game and try and win on Tuesday.
No easy task as we are playing another team in form.
We really need Colin and/or Chris back for that one.
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VofD's post is spot on. Nuff said.