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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on September 11, 2022, 04:53:42 PM
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Might well be a blessing we didn't play an in form Wealdstone.
It's proper 6 pointer on Tuesday. I just pray we play our best 11.
Alty 2-0 SC**thorpe. (Con-Clarke, Colclough)
Hopefully kick start our season. The consequences of a loss are frightening
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Colclough will be fired up for this one.
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Colclough will be fired up for this one.
one would hope and pray every single player is
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Really looking forward to tomorrow night. It'll be interesting to see what the attendance will be.
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After a heavy watering today, the weather looks set fair tomorrow evening and I plan to be in attendance.
We really must win this one.
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Yep, concur with that. This really is a must win.
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I think Coco will have a really good game tomorrow for Alty.
Let’s get our season off to a winning run..
Alty 2 - 0 SC**thorpe..
Coco and Jordon to get the goals.
Att 2378
Onwards & Upwards
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Not sure what their away following is like but PLEASE can we not give them the end of the pop side!
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Not sure what their away following is like but PLEASE can we not give them the end of the pop side!
The weather is set fair for the game, so there should not be a need to restrict the home fans access to the end of the popular stand.
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Another plea to let us have the top corner on the Pop side. Need that atmosphere.
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Listening To Rob Esteva, on RA, he said that Ollie was available for selection tomorrow night for the SC**thorpe match. Let's hope so.
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Not sure what their away following is like but PLEASE can we not give them the end of the pop side!
I saw via their website we’d allocated them an initial 400 tickets including a third of the Family Stand, widespread fan discontent and a bad start to the season I’d be surprised if they sold all 400. Not every club who comes down from the EFL has a mega away following, at least it will be dry for them.
I really fancy us tomorrow, Byrne back in goal, Colclough is going to have a stormer, it’s a home win for me in front of about 1800.
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Listening To Rob Esteva, on RA, he said that Ollie was available for selection tomorrow night for the SC**thorpe match. Let's hope so.
I won’t be impressed if available for selection equates to being on the bench.
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I think it'll be nervy, dont forget they will see us as the way to kickstart their season. A 1-0 win would suit me but to be honest the pessimist in me sees the draw
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They haven't scored in last five and a half hours or so. It's essential we keep a clean sheet tonight.
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They haven't scored in last five and a half hours or so. It's essential we keep a clean sheet tonight.
Oh dear. Another way of looking at it is that they are going to score sometime. I’ll vote for your optimistic version.😀
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We cannot hold a lead this season……so frustrating 🤦🏼
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What the hell is Parky telling them at half time?! This second half mental block is going to relegate us.
We let a poor SC**thorpe side come on to us for far too long... and paid the ultimate price.
If Marcus Dinanga is the answer then we might as well give up now - he was utterly dreadful.
Plus sides: keeper looks solid and good with the ball at his feet, Toby is by far our best defender. Eddy Jones seems to be settling back in reasonably well. Not a fan of James Jones at all, he's really poor technically.
Egli Kaja was the difference between a poor result and utter disaster. He needs to be starting now.
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Indeed, the start of the second half used to be our best time of the match, this season it has been the worst. Today, we were so flat after the break we deserved to lose - passive, no energy, nothing - we just sat back and let SC**thorpe dominate, it was inevitable they would score.
We only started playing with energy, pace and effort again when we went 2-1 down. If we'd played like that before we'd have won.
Kaja was impressive, definite decent threat on the right. Marcus needs to work a lot on his runs if he is going to score, there were 3 decent crosses put in and he didn't get on the end of any of them.
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Two poor sides tonight.
Having nothing special upfront will relegate us.
Kaja had great feet and was not knocked off the ball easily. As cameo performances go, he was impressive.
Going to be a long season at this rate, although a win could easily lift us.
Two points chucked away tonight by another incredibly poor ten minutes. Why we did not pressure Ogle before we went behind is a mystery. He was bobbins, but maybe had taken a knock
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We were very very poor and I remain worried.
Ain't going to create chances with your Con-Clarke's and Bennett's out wide. Kaja was a breath of fresh air, who should have come on 15 mins earlier. We may have not conceded those goals.
We were being pressed back and PP bottled the sub, which allowed pressure onto us and they went 2-1 up. Kaja on earlier or even bloody starting may have put a poor away team on the back foot.
PP seems to have lost his bottle, our direct and pressing play. They were much quicker at shifting the ball first half.
We literally only have Colclough who will drive. Mooney and Kossy were also players who drove at defenders. CCC turns and twists but he ain't good enough out wide and Bennett is too slow.
Still need a magic number 10. If Hancock was still here he would be starting whilst Kossy was out so the reason I am worried is with have not progressed. We look weaker, less of a threat.
Dinanga is still turd. His distribution, like James Jones was dog sh*t. James Jones has been awful since returning, gutted as he was and still could be a player.
Malone might aswell not been on the pitch. The sooner we get Marriott the back the much safer we will be.
Toby was MOTM.
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It was an oddly entertaining or exciting game, but I could see why the two sides were the bottom two.
Yes, as others have said, Kaja deserves a longer run if not a start, while Byrne looked very solid in goal.
PS Does anybody have any idea what are strongest XI is? I am sure I don't.
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Why has our passing turned so sh*t??
Struggling to see where our first win is gonna come from at this rate
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First time I’ve seen us in the flesh this season & it wasn’t great unfortunately.
Two sides low on confidence & therefore when we took the lead right on HT that should have been perfect timing and given us a platform for the second. Unfortunately as with a lot of other games this season, Scunny pinned us back after the break & turned it round with two quick fire goals, especially galling in the first came straight off our own attack and then a soft pen. We woke up again to equalise but after that never had a serious chance to win it & Scunny looked far likelier at the death.
The positives for me was that Byrne was finally in goal and now he simply has to have a run. Neither goal was his fault and he was continually talking, came for crosses and has a great kick on him too. Jones and Barrows look like they may have nailed down our troublesome FB spots too and Kaja was superb when he came on, put the equaliser on a plate.
The negatives-we have taken 3 points out of 9 vs Maidstone, Yeovil and Scunny which I fear will cost us later in the season. We have conceded 7 goals in 4 home games & we are far too easy to play through (Marriot is such a loss in that regard). Dinanga is simply not up to it at our level for me & Parky’s subs are too late and reactive. Kaja should have been on far sooner. I know it’s unfortunate too with injuries to key players but it’s getting hard to keep up with the number of loanees we have and the pre kick off ‘is he Stoke/Crewe/Fleetwood again etc’.
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Very disappointing tonight. I'm as optimistic as you can get but that display worried me.
We need a proper leader on the pitch - Toby's a good player but I don't see him as someone who rallies and organises the lads when things aren't going right for us.
Positives from tonight - Ollie looked solid in goal and Kaja made a real difference when he came on.
What's with Barrows' socks? Look like they're full of holes, are they his "lucky" ones that he doesn't want to throw away? ;D
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Fully agree with most of the comments here . Toby once again our best player . Ryan our only attacking threat until Kaja came on . God help us if those two get injured . Against a poor Scunny we looked like the away team for much of the game , nuff said .
Despite that the singers were superb throughout . Brilliant guys .
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I wish Parky would grow a pair and attack teams. Scunny are woeful and it’s definitely 2 points dropped tonight.
Agree with a lot of what’s been said. Lundstram and Osborne are too negative (play backwards 99% of the time), James Jones looks a liability and can’t pass the ball to one of our players.
If Kaja comes on at 1-0 up we don’t concede 2 goals but PP arse fell out and bottled it.
We have gone full time but are so far off where we were last season. Very worrying times, we will go down I think
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What the hell is Parky telling them at half time?! This second half mental block is going to relegate us.
We let a poor SC**thorpe side come on to us for far too long... and paid the ultimate price.
If Marcus Dinanga is the answer then we might as well give up now - he was utterly dreadful.
Plus sides: keeper looks solid and good with the ball at his feet, Toby is by far our best defender. Eddy Jones seems to be settling back in reasonably well. Not a fan of James Jones at all, he's really poor technically.
Egli Kaja was the difference between a poor result and utter disaster. He needs to be starting now.
Agree 100% about Kaja, he was quality and immediately put the wind up SC**thorpe. Think criticism of Dinanga is a tad unfair; as a lone striker both he and Hulme are finding they are isolated and largely ineffective. Kaja could, I think, bridge the gap, the alternative is to trial playing both Hulme and Dinanga and hope we score more than the oppo.
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In the immortal words of the great Groucho Marx: "I've had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it."
A worryingly substandard performance, particularly our erratic passing.
An alarmingly poor attendance.
I'm not sure quite how Osborne was deemed worthy of the 'man of the match' accolade after that ridiculous challenge which resulted in them being awarded a penalty.
I think that we are in trouble here. I hope that my fears may be misfounded but this current squad does not instil confidence that our first victory of the season is imminent.
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We miss Kossy & Marriott but the sad fact is we ain’t going to see them this season. Kaja has to be a shoe in for a place in the team. I would have Baines next to Toby in the middle of the back four. As for up top, with Jordan currently injured let’s give the lad Goodson a go up top as Marcus isn’t cutting the mustard. It was good to see Olly in goal tonight, we need tonhave more shots when we’re in sight of goal and please stop trying to pass the ball into the net, Just hit the bloody thing.
We need a win desperately and we have to get at least two against Aldershot, Dagenham or Gateshead.
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I was worried at the start of the season when Phil lauded the return of Dinanga .... And now I am even more worried
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Thought the squad looked very thin last night, and doesn't bode well for the next few months. We brought numerous defenders into the club in the summer who don't seem to be heavily involved in first XI plans (Roxburgh, Brockbank, Cooper), whilst not replacing Mooney or finding an upgrade in the striker position. Loanees like Malone might be necessary in covering for unforseen injuries, but loanees like Jones and Conn-Clarke are covering for gaps in the permanent playing squad. The Marriott injury is the most unfortunate, and we now look one paced in midfield - Osbourne in particular was woeful last night and had the turning circle of a tanker in the 10 role.
Not to suggest anything happening now, but I'm interested in how many winless games people think would be the trigger for conversations about the management. After Saturday we'll have played nearly a fifth of the season already.
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We knew staying part time wouldn’t get us out of this league at the top end. What sunk in for me last night is the fact going full time isn’t going to achieve the same objective in the foreseeable future either. We look like a full time outfit constructed with limited resources. That’s because that’s where we’re at. We desperately need an increased budget to drive us upwards and attract better players. I know that’s an obvious observation. Taking into account over 200 away fans came, the attendance on a balmy autumn evening was disappointing. SC**thorpe hadn’t scored in over five hours of football until last night. The sight of Phil stood on the halfway line watching on in the second half as they overran us to come from behind was a painful lesson. Kaja was one of the few glimmers of encouragement in an otherwise very hard watch. Ollie in goal was good to see too. It’s going to be a long season unless a supporter wins the National Lottery jackpot and decides to make a major investment in the club. Apologies for the negative vibe.
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We miss Kossy & Marriott but the sad fact is we ain’t going to see them this season. Kaja has to be a shoe in for a place in the team. I would have Baines next to Toby in the middle of the back four. As for up top, with Jordan currently injured let’s give the lad Goodson a go up top as Marcus isn’t cutting the mustard. It was good to see Olly in goal tonight, we need tonhave more shots when we’re in sight of goal and please stop trying to pass the ball into the net, Just hit the bloody thing.
We need a win desperately and we have to get at least two against Aldershot, Dagenham or Gateshead.
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Kozzy and Marriott are good mates by the looks of things, from the videos they're sharing on Instagram they both seem to be making decent progress.
Their respective returns can't come soon enough - we will see them in the New Year I'm sure.
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Losing 1,500 appearances worth of experience from the squad is looking painfully evident at the moment. If I’m being ruthless here, I think only Byrne (gets a bit of a free pass), Barrows, Mullarkey and Lundstram have looked consistently up to the level so far this season, while others have sadly looked well short of what’s required.
Said it in the middle of pre-season but we’ve lost Mooney, Hancock, and Kosylo for a long period of time, and we’ve really struggled to replace them. For all the stick he got, you can give me Tom Peers over any of that starting front 4 bar Colclough, but even he looks like his head has fallen off.
I’ve always said football is mostly confidence and it could just be that we need a win to kick start a bit of form, but if that win isn’t coming in a game at home against that calibre of opposition, then I do worry about where it does come from.
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Losing 1,500 appearances worth of experience from the squad is looking painfully evident at the moment. If I’m being ruthless here, I think only Byrne (gets a bit of a free pass), Barrows, Mullarkey and Lundstram have looked consistently up to the level so far this season, while others have sadly looked well short of what’s required.
Said it in the middle of pre-season but we’ve lost Mooney, Hancock, and Kosylo for a long period of time, and we’ve really struggled to replace them. For all the stick he got, you can give me Tom Peers over any of that starting front 4 bar Colclough, but even he looks like his head has fallen off.
I’ve always said football is mostly confidence and it could just be that we need a win to kick start a bit of form, but if that win isn’t coming in a game at home against that calibre of opposition, then I do worry about where it does come from.
Talking of free passes, I'd put Lundstram in that category mate. Been completely anonymous whenever I've watched him so far.
I always used to think about that position in a 4231 as being a 'quietly efficient' type role... until Marriott came along and showed what it should be.
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We were very very poor and I remain worried.
Ain't going to create chances with your Con-Clarke's and Bennett's out wide. Kaja was a breath of fresh air, who should have come on 15 mins earlier. We may have not conceded those goals.
We were being pressed back and PP bottled the sub, which allowed pressure onto us and they went 2-1 up. Kaja on earlier or even bloody starting may have put a poor away team on the back foot.
PP seems to have lost his bottle, our direct and pressing play. They were much quicker at shifting the ball first half.
We literally only have Colclough who will drive. Mooney and Kossy were also players who drove at defenders. CCC turns and twists but he ain't good enough out wide and Bennett is too slow.
Still need a magic number 10. If Hancock was still here he would be starting whilst Kossy was out so the reason I am worried is with have not progressed. We look weaker, less of a threat.
Dinanga is still turd. His distribution, like James Jones was dog sh*t. James Jones has been awful since returning, gutted as he was and still could be a player.
Malone might aswell not been on the pitch. The sooner we get Marriott the back the much safer we will be.
Toby was MOTM.
A bit unfair to Bennett who never came off the bench. Strange that we only used two subs in such a poor display.
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Lundstram does a very good, unnoticed job. Some people will miss his input only when he doesn't play
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need a proper left and right back,mid field seems ok we do have a creative midfield player in Ben Pringle and what about the new attacker Zak??????
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Based on the showing last night I'm concerned, the beginning of the second half again we switched off, if allowing SC**thorpe to come onto us is game management then the management need to advise why? I agree with all comments above, good to see byrne in goal, he'll do well for us. JJ has been very poor since returning, needs to sort out or be replaced. Barrows needs to get fitter as many of them do, for full time I do wonder what we actually do at training. We are not as good as we were part time.
Not sure why Zak wasn't involved, and Kaja did ok when came on and needs more game time. We could have won at the end, but why are the forwards not trying to get on the end of some good crosses. Beggars belief.
Poor penalty conceded, soft and needless. And the defending for the first from the 50/50 Barrows lost to Toby slipping was comical at best. woeful.
If the current crew arn't good enough then the club need to find a way to get reinforcements in, RW and CF, No10 also.
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Lots of effort last night from both teams, but as John Laidlaw suggested in his report “frantic and lack of composure” ( not sure what the match the reporter was watching on the main site).
All evidenced when Jones won the ball at full back in first twenty minutes and punted it 60 yards into an empty space.
Missed crosses abundant, poor distribution from defenders all night unable to find our own players. To be fair SC**thorpe worked hard in closing down high up the pitch but even they were poor. Obviously at HT SC**thorpe were told to move the ball quicker and justifiably went in front.
Kaja seemed to change the game when introduced with strong running and much stronger on the ball than Conn Clarke.
I doubt we can get more quality in this group of players in one season and unless a change in approach we are definitely looking at a difficult season.
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I know people will get bored of me saying this but was has happened with Alex Sami, when he is he going to get his chance to show what he can do?
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For whatever reason, he hasn't been given a chance and I don't expect he will be either. A very strange acquisition if he's not going to be used at all.
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Based on the showing last night I'm concerned, the beginning of the second half again we switched off, if allowing SC**thorpe to come onto us is game management then the management need to advise why? I agree with all comments above, good to see byrne in goal, he'll do well for us. JJ has been very poor since returning, needs to sort out or be replaced. Barrows needs to get fitter as many of them do, for full time I do wonder what we actually do at training. We are not as good as we were part time.
This is what I'm struggling to get my head round. Parky bored us with "can't stress the disadvantage of only having part time hours with the players every week" last season.
So we've gone full time yet seem to have gone so far backwards it's baffling and very worrying. Granted we've lost some great players and signed some absolute tosh but it's just looked disorganized all season with centre-halfs playing full back, clueless with our build up through midfield (sideways, backwards) then often resorting to hoof ball with Jordan or Marcus chasing lost causes with f**k all support. We're looking second best even against the worst opposition (our playoff winning side would have gupped them last night).
Add to that the fitness side of it, Kaja obviously isn't fit enough to start otherwise he surely would be, the same issue I imagine with this mythical Sami bloke. Barrows looks ok since he's come in but has been f**ked after 60 minutes the last two home games, we are full time and 9 games into the season, what's going on?
Unless Marriott and Kosylo make a miraculously quick recovery I think we'll be back with the Chester cretins next season unfortunately, in a league that looks tougher than ever.
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The Parky interview must be receiving a lot of editing. Usually out by now.
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I can see us shifting from being a part time club in a full time league last season, to being a full time club in a part time league next season.
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We've played well for about 80 minutes in the games Ive seen.
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Normally think Parky gives an honest interview but that post match interview was utter bollocks. Worries me even more. The worst interview he has done and not helped by the interviewer putting nonsense into his mouth.They were better than us first half and caused more issues and then pressed us back 15 mins into the second half. What he said about Dinanga was a lie. This is the stubborn Parky that annoys me.
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Dinanga is manifestly not the answer to our central striker/goalscoring issues, however I do think that it's a trifle unfair for him to be singled out in certain quarters as being the prime reason for our current malaise.
For my money, other players such as Hulme, Osborne, Colclough and (especially) James Jones have all been underwhelming to date this season.
Nondescript, frail young loanees are patently not going to dig us out of this current hole in this unforgiving division.
The squad presently looks gossamer-thin and appears littered with players such as Pringle, Conn-Clarke, Bennett, Malone, Jackson and Kaja (impressive though he was for the closing 20 minutes last evening) who seem incapable of putting in a competitive shift for a duration of even 60 minutes, nevermind 90.
Our overall game at present appears to mirror the J Davidson Stadium floodlights in that it is prone to instances of circuit failure.
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Whilst I agree with 99% of Cult's post, I wouldn't write off the ability of Kaja to do a full 90 minutes, provided he was actually given a start !
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James Jones looks like the guy that played for us be fore but doesn’t play like him. Perhaps it’s the step up that’s a struggle for him. Played for us before at a lower level.
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James Jones looks like the guy that played for us be fore but doesn’t play like him. Perhaps it’s the step up that’s a struggle for him. Played for us before at a lower level.
He's quite simply missing Tom Hannigan.
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I haven't seen the team play this season so I will accept criticism from people who may say that I shouldn't be posting however, when reading all the posts there seems a theme that most feel the side is simply not good enough to compete successfully at National league level at least not just yet. I still have the club very much at heart and the results and comments are worrying. It would be a great shame if all the hard work of the last two or three season is undone. Let's hope for significant improvement and soon! It's OK to have full time fit footballers however, if they are not good or experienced enough well there's going to be more choppy waters. IMO the club should have gone with a hybrid system for this season where new younger players could have been introduced slowly surrounded by the experience of e.g. Moulty, Tom Hannigan, TT, and others! SBL
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James Jones looks like the guy that played for us be fore but doesn’t play like him. Perhaps it’s the step up that’s a struggle for him. Played for us before at a lower level.
He's quite simply missing Tom Hannigan.
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I haven't seen the team play this season so I will accept criticism from people who may say that I shouldn't be posting however, when reading all the posts there seems a theme that most feel the side is simply not good enough to compete successfully at National league level at least not just yet. I still have the club very much at heart and the results and comments are worrying. It would be a great shame if all the hard work of the last two or three season is undone. Let's hope for significant improvement and soon! It's OK to have full time fit footballers however, if they are not good or experienced enough well there's going to be more choppy waters. IMO the club should have gone with a hybrid system for this season where new younger players could have been introduced slowly surrounded by the experience of e.g. Moulty, Tom Hannigan, TT, and others! SBL
The original plan was hybrid, and I think we're missing that here, a few more experienced heads.
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I haven't seen the team play this season so I will accept criticism from people who may say that I shouldn't be posting however, when reading all the posts there seems a theme that most feel the side is simply not good enough to compete successfully at National league level at least not just yet. I still have the club very much at heart and the results and comments are worrying. It would be a great shame if all the hard work of the last two or three season is undone. Let's hope for significant improvement and soon! It's OK to have full time fit footballers however, if they are not good or experienced enough well there's going to be more choppy waters. IMO the club should have gone with a hybrid system for this season where new younger players could have been introduced slowly surrounded by the experience of e.g. Moulty, Tom Hannigan, TT, and others! SBL
The original plan was hybrid, and I think we're missing that here, a few more experienced heads.
When names like Ashley Hemmings (just one example) were being mooted pre-season on the forum, they were quickly dismissed - but in a men's league, you need some men. I'd have someone like him every day of the week over a fresh-faced loanee from an U23 league.
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I haven't seen the team play this season so I will accept criticism from people who may say that I shouldn't be posting however, when reading all the posts there seems a theme that most feel the side is simply not good enough to compete successfully at National league level at least not just yet. I still have the club very much at heart and the results and comments are worrying. It would be a great shame if all the hard work of the last two or three season is undone. Let's hope for significant improvement and soon! It's OK to have full time fit footballers however, if they are not good or experienced enough well there's going to be more choppy waters. IMO the club should have gone with a hybrid system for this season where new younger players could have been introduced slowly surrounded by the experience of e.g. Moulty, Tom Hannigan, TT, and others! SBL
The original plan was hybrid, and I think we're missing that here, a few more experienced heads.
Correct,whatever happenned to the hybrid plan.