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Re: Buzz Robbie & Graham
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2017, 07:52:54 PM »

No real issue giving it them to the end of the season officially. It's here nor there in the scheme of things, and it's not like we've made any effort to look elsewhere.

Get the season finished and then hopefully let a new chairman appoint their own manager in the summer for next season - who should be recruited with an emphasis on getting back into the Conf as quickly as possible, not just back to this sh*t league.

The board won't go.

I would have thought it fairly safe, and reasonable, to assume the position of the current chairman/board to be completely untenable should we drop to the lowest level in our history. Particularly given we will have suffered such a misfortune during a period of relative financial stability.
Hence, I think the appointment today is a fairly sensible move, and I don't think any footballing decisions for next season should be taken until the off-field set up is confirmed.
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2017, 08:05:55 PM »

No real issue giving it them to the end of the season officially. It's here nor there in the scheme of things, and it's not like we've made any effort to look elsewhere.

Get the season finished and then hopefully let a new chairman appoint their own manager in the summer for next season - who should be recruited with an emphasis on getting back into the Conf as quickly as possible, not just back to this sh*t league.

The board won't go.

I would have thought it fairly safe, and reasonable, to assume the position of the current chairman/board to be completely untenable should we drop to the lowest level in our history. Particularly given we will have suffered such a misfortune during a period of relative financial stability.
Hence, I think the appointment today is a fairly sensible move, and I don't think any footballing decisions for next season should be taken until the off-field set up is confirmed.
Matt Doughty was appointed because the Board clearly had no other options. No offence to him, but I'm not sure what he has done to deserve it - he is a former player and had 2 unsuccessful spells as Assistant Manager. However it looked very much like Graham Heathcote was in charge yesterday, but who knows. I'm not sure which game he was watching yesterday, but I wouldn't have described anyone's performance as "Outstanding" and we certainly didn't look more organised in the first minute. I can't see how he can lose his job, so in all likelihood they will start next season still in charge and the Board won't be going anywhere. There is no challenge to them and we haven't got an effective supporters group to show opposition so the status quo looks likely to continue for a more years at least.
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Mausoleum Alty

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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2017, 08:39:21 PM »

Grahame Rowley said, 'Matt and Robbie came to see me to ask where they stood,

What would have happened if they hadn't come to ask?

We were never looking for a new manager, the board don't trust themselves to appoint another manager. For next season we need a proper new manager appointed by a new board

Incidentally does this mean Graham Heathcote is paying back to the club his £60k pay off that Rowley gave him?
I've posted it elsewhere before but I'm not sure where you are getting 60k from its way out.

If you got made redundant while under contract and had long service  would you take a pay out ? And if you were asked back by the company you left would you give it back?

Made redundant? I thought he was sacked?
Anyway it's clearly him in charge now and the other two are just a cover show. If he keeps us up then fair play but he didn't manage it at Stafford or Trafford before quitting football so I'm not too optimistic.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2017, 09:13:50 PM »

I'm not sure at the reaction by some to be honest. If you've already written us off, myself included, why be bothered about this appointment?

What's the point in getting 'the right' manager in now? We're already down. We aren't going to get someone decent in now that's happy to steer us to relegation and bring the right players in. All these players we've brought in will be on the first train out of Alty in June as soon as a better offer comes in, especially if we've made a go of it and took it to the last 3 games and they've put themselves in the shop window to stay in this league where teams will have a much bigger budget than a glue league club for wages.

Let these three have a go.

Yesterday was ok. I'd argue we've still got a few players on the pitch who just aren't good enough. The five players they've brought in aren't any of them on yesterday's showing. Deasy, Densmore, Cyrus, Moult and Reeves were poor yesterday. If you can argue Reeves and Densmore aren't fit through injury or getting back from injury then maybe we've got 7 players, 8 with Miller. There's something there for us to have a crack at least.

One thing I noticed yesterday is the ball just doesn't break for us. If it had we'd have scored 3 yesterday. If these three are giving the players some confidence then the ball will start to break for players and points will start to come.

Get your miracle boots on lads, good luck to you.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2017, 09:18:32 PM »

Cyrus won every header yesterday.  His distribtion is shocking.

Thought Moult was fine and a massive miss 2nd half
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2017, 09:29:12 PM »

Grahame Rowley said, 'Matt and Robbie came to see me to ask where they stood,

What would have happened if they hadn't come to ask?

We were never looking for a new manager, the board don't trust themselves to appoint another manager. For next season we need a proper new manager appointed by a new board

Incidentally does this mean Graham Heathcote is paying back to the club his £60k pay off that Rowley gave him?
I've posted it elsewhere before but I'm not sure where you are getting 60k from its way out.

If you got made redundant while under contract and had long service  would you take a pay out ? And if you were asked back by the company you left would you give it back?
he got sacked and had the remaining two years of his contract paid up, that money had been earmarked for team strengthing and had been donated by a then shareholder. Ultimately we were relegated and Heathcote paid his mortgage off. And now he is back pulling the strings again, too many ill informed or with short memories
I'm fully informed thank you and my memory is fine

As always you never answer my questions
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2017, 10:50:01 PM »

I hate to be negative, but we surely all know we are going down.

Maybe Buzz and co can get us ready for an attempt at an immediate return - there have certainly been signs of that at Blyth and at FC United - but I really don't see how any new manager could make a difference for this season.  I think the board's decision that we carry on as we are, getting the odd point here and there, is a strong hint of he they see the future.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2017, 10:58:27 PM »

Good luck to Buzz and Robbie. They have invited GH to help them. Why not I say.

Hopefully we will see some points on the board and something to cheer about. If we get relegated so be it. One game at a time for now.

Come on you Robins.
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Mausoleum Alty

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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2017, 07:17:49 AM »

Grahame Rowley said, 'Matt and Robbie came to see me to ask where they stood,

What would have happened if they hadn't come to ask?

We were never looking for a new manager, the board don't trust themselves to appoint another manager. For next season we need a proper new manager appointed by a new board

Incidentally does this mean Graham Heathcote is paying back to the club his £60k pay off that Rowley gave him?
I've posted it elsewhere before but I'm not sure where you are getting 60k from its way out.

If you got made redundant while under contract and had long service  would you take a pay out ? And if you were asked back by the company you left would you give it back?
he got sacked and had the remaining two years of his contract paid up, that money had been earmarked for team strengthing and had been donated by a then shareholder. Ultimately we were relegated and Heathcote paid his mortgage off. And now he is back pulling the strings again, too many ill informed or with short memories
I'm fully informed thank you and my memory is fine

As always you never answer my questions

In fairness to Fog Off it's hard to answer a question that has an inaccuracy in it as GH was sacked not made redundant which also makes the second question invalid. Wayno is a family friend of the Heathcotes so will always stick up for and rightly so as I would do for a family friend but other supporters have long memories and find it hard to forget.
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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2017, 07:28:45 AM »

If Heathcote contributes to us staying up who is really going to kick up a fuss? 

I wanted him to leave last time, but I recognise we don't have many options left at present. He has a role and gets my backing, until proven otherwise.
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« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2017, 08:51:21 AM »

Unfortunately, if Buzz has been appointed manager, he could appoint anyone he wants as his assistant. He could have Harvey and Young is he wanted.

However, the way we finished against FCUM felt very Heathcote away in the conference
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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2017, 09:19:06 AM »

As has already been said, at least the 3 of them are 100% Alty and given our predicament, that is pretty priceless. We are going down, but if we can go down fighting I'd definitely be behind them staying next season.
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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2017, 09:49:39 AM »

Let these three fellas get on with the job until the end of the season. I can guarantee those who are criticising the appointment will have nothing but praise for them if the pull off the great escape.

If we do go down then so be it. 

The damage was done by the signing of Young and Harvey not these 3 ex Alty players who are at least showing some passion
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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2017, 10:40:46 AM »

Let these three fellas get on with the job until the end of the season. I can guarantee those who are criticising the appointment will have nothing but praise for them if the pull off the great escape.

If we do go down then so be it. 

The damage was done by the signing of Young and Harvey not these 3 ex Alty players who are at least showing some passion

Well said.
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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2017, 11:33:22 AM »

Let these three fellas get on with the job until the end of the season. I can guarantee those who are criticising the appointment will have nothing but praise for them if the pull off the great escape.

If we do go down then so be it. 

The damage was done by the signing of Young and Harvey not these 3 ex Alty players who are at least showing some passion

Quite agree. I heard a rumour at the FCUM game that GH is working for the club for free at the moment....not sure if it is true or not, but anyway I would personally prefer that people get behind GH, who has done so much for Alty over so many years, than knock the guy during these difficult times. I don't know the details of his severance package all those years ago, but i do remember he seemed quite burnt out at the end of the manager spell. These things happen in business....I have seen far far worse people than GH get much bigger payouts for doing much less in companies I have been involved in.

I don't think this management team (or any frankly) can pull of the required miracle, but I hope to be proven wrong.
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