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Title: Vics come into money?
Post by: Mick on May 16, 2010, 07:45:27 PM
The front page of the NLP says that Vics will take the Conference to the European courts if they are thrown out of the BSN for failing to comply with the competition rules (again)

Funny how it is always the clubs that have no money to pay off debts, that then find some to toss in a barrister's direction
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: York Alty on May 16, 2010, 07:53:58 PM
sounds like nonsense to me.  anythign going to the eurppean courts takes a might long time.  no way that'll be sorted before next season.
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: distancetraveller on May 16, 2010, 08:15:59 PM
Im fkn sick to death of reading about clubs like Northwich who basically cheat financially to stay in existance...

Chuck them out of the game until they sort there sh*t out and dont let the crooks who run the club have any input in football ever again
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: Dougals Dad on May 17, 2010, 12:00:17 AM
Maybe they got legal aid!
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: Mick on May 17, 2010, 01:34:06 AM
They seem to think that paying the monies agreed at the CVA equals paying their debts 'in-full'......this is their arguement.
I thought they were paying this reduced amount off over a 5 year period, so that does not equal 'in-full' either.
Like Distancetraveller, I am sick of them and their silly 'games'. Throw them out and chuck away the key until they have reformed as a respectable fans run club operated in a sensible manner
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: Aussie Bob on May 17, 2010, 02:47:58 AM
5 year plan to pay off debts at 42 pence in pound or something similair...how can that be construed as paid off in full ? think talk of european courts shows that they dont think FA will overule the conference...this could be the top of a very slippery slope ....
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: seasonticket on May 17, 2010, 09:30:19 AM
Is Rushe trying to outdo Dean Saunders in the stupidity stakes or does he just want a prat of the year award.
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: fuertes on May 17, 2010, 09:41:09 AM
Disgraceful. That is all.
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: (S)ALTY on May 17, 2010, 11:15:20 AM
Maybe they got legal aid!

They'll need Band Aid to get them out of the financial do do they are in ! Never mind the European Courts
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: Hale Alty on May 17, 2010, 10:59:31 PM
Unless i'm misreading this completely Rushe seems to be confusing the requirement to pay an agreed amount of  debt under a CVA to carry on trading,   and the Conference requirement to pay off ALL your debt to enable to to keep on playing in the division.
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: RobinRedhead on May 24, 2010, 01:39:42 PM
Unsurprisingly their neighbours are not very sympathetic!

This string of posts makes amusing reading

http://www.wittonalbion.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=101&func=view&catid=7&id=28904&limit=15&limitstart=135

Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: York Alty on May 24, 2010, 08:01:08 PM
oh dear!
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: Aussie Bob on May 25, 2010, 04:49:29 AM
"The Illuminati and New World Order One Governement are to blame
Draco-Reptilians from the star system Orion are to blame as the colour green signifies witchcraft, devilry and evil"

that made me laugh out loud ..
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: Scottie on May 25, 2010, 07:58:16 AM
A good post re: Vics on the Witton site


Victims - It Wasn't Me

Money came in but they caught us red-handed
We just kept borrowing more
Picture this, we kept going bust, but we always went back for more

We had tried to keep it all
From the bank and HMRC
Why should they believe me
When I told them it wasn't me

We never paid our bills, (It wasn't me)
Or the HMRC, (It wasn't me)
We never paid our players, (It wasn't me)
Broke appendix rule E, (It wasn't me
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: Stockportalty on May 25, 2010, 08:51:23 AM
As my hubby pointed out when the news of their going down to the Unibond league came through, before he took over at Vics, didn't Mr Rushe say he wanted to own a Unibond League Team ( at the time a step up from where he had been). Well he has finally achieved his goal so he should be pleased with himself!!!
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: Mick on May 25, 2010, 12:10:45 PM
When reading the Vics site it is obvious that 7 out of 10 Vics fans believe they have done nothing wrong and that Mr Rushe is an all round good egg who is now being victimised for trying to 'save' Vics

There seems to be denial that Mr Rushe has in fact increased the clubs debt with his ill-thought policies of paying high wages, full-time players etc whilst attracting crowds of only 500-600. For me he is just the type of gambler that NL football can do without 

Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: anglo alty on May 25, 2010, 10:24:55 PM
just imagine what would happen if vics took their case to the european court and won it would render the nine month process of playing the league to find out who would be champions and who would be relegated a total waste of time at the moment any team relegated on the pitch can consider itself unlucky if it goes down i know alty have benefitted in the past but this farcical situation has to stop for the overall good of he game
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: York Alty on May 25, 2010, 11:20:12 PM
Anglo - I agree totally.  I have made a couple of suggestions in the past about how situationS like this can be managed but still have decisions about who's up / down made on the pitch.  They are all however somewhat flawed.  There is no easy answer to this but one thing is for sure, if we carry on deducting points and demoting teams we WILL sooner or later end up in the courts. One court case, with an injunction to stop a season starting pending a "final" legal decision & the whole pyramind below the league in quesiton is trown into turmoil. 

THIS NEEDS SORTING NOW.
Title: Re: Vics come into money?
Post by: Saughall Robin on May 26, 2010, 09:34:38 AM
just imagine what would happen if vics took their case to the european court and won it would render the nine month process of playing the league to find out who would be champions and who would be relegated a total waste of time at the moment any team relegated on the pitch can consider itself unlucky if it goes down i know alty have benefitted in the past but this farcical situation has to stop for the overall good of he game

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