www.altyfans.co.uk

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

PLEASE JOIN THE ALTRINCHAM FC PATRONS SCHEME TODAY
* HELP THE CLUB THROUGH THE COVID-19 SHUTDOWN
* HELP FUND THE CLUB TO BIGGER AND BRIGHTER THINGS
* HELP THE MANAGERS ATTRACT THE PLAYERS THEY NEED TO PUSH THE CLUB FORWARD

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/club/the-patrons-scheme

+ www.altyfans.co.uk » Profile of Ballers » Show Posts
 Messages

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Messages - Ballers

Pages: 1 ... 346 347 348 349 350 [351] 352 353
5251
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Bury.
« on: December 16, 2006, 10:01:57 AM »
Thought you might be interested to know that Bury played an illegible player in the FA Cup against Chester.

After the draconian and insane* way you were treated, it'll be interesting to see how they deal with them.

http://www.chestercityfc.net/article/750454/FA-investigate-Bury-over-player-eligibility-in-Cup

[size=8pt]* that's Draconian and insane to anyone who was sympathetic to Macc's problems last year, but to those who still witter on about us 'cheating' it was too lenient a punishment and you should have been relegated on the spot.[/size]
[/b]

Very nicely put Silkyman I must admit! :)

5252
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: FA Trophy
« on: December 10, 2006, 12:57:26 PM »
How are we playing at the moment? Hmm ::)

Can't comment on yesterday sgame at Kiddy as didn't go but we seem to have improved in that we pass the ball a lot more abnd are combative in midfield and rose/munroe at the back have been quite good. However, we keep giving away sloppy goals and can't nail down a win at all at the moment, I think it's possible we may only win once away from home all season really. I still think the assault on Colin Little that put him out for 9 games is the reason that we're not mid table but there you go.

I think the trophy game could be a secretly good one, more fool teams that don't take the trophy seriously I say. Only 8 or 9 teams cna realistically be more concerned with the playoffs than the Trophy the rest of us should embrace. It's a cracking competition and once the final is back at Wembley it really will be something to go for. Imagine the buzz of seeing us at New Wembley.

I presme that Tamworth will put in a better showing in thia game, when you came to Moss Lane we were all bemused as to why you were so bad seriously, and you do seem to have a bit of a cup thing going at the moment. Altho I dislike  certainpeople connected with Tamworth that is an excellent achievement. Perhaps Cooper only motivates himself and hios team when theirs a bit of glory involved I don't know.

My gut feeling is that the Norwich game may be on your players minds and we'll capitalise on it, poss 2-0 altho God knows at teh moment

5253
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: FA Cup..
« on: December 09, 2006, 12:31:13 PM »
Yes I do wnat Macc to come down obviously, but there's a reet selection of teams to get relegated from league 2 that I'd be more than satisfied to see. Primarikly I think i'd just like 2 north west clubs (but not Bury as i think that would be then end of them).

p.s. Silkyman, just be careful up there in the ivory towers you're accustomed to, maybe the cup run will give you a bigger budget to bounce back with should you come down, but the relative sub 2000 support make sme think you'll do a Rushden/Cambridge/Kidderminster rather than a Shrewsbury/Carlisle/Oxford. If you come down, this league will eat you up, it ain't what it used to be.

p.p.s. If you've got money I think you shouldve broke the bank to get Stabby back as he wouldve kept you up, no doubt.

p.p.p.s. Tinson was excellent again for burton last week

5254
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Predictions for Satdee
« on: December 07, 2006, 06:21:26 PM »
You are a decent team IMO. Your showing at the Abbey proved that this season.

With a lot of our fans and many from ex-League clubs, you get a 'theyre part time, never been in the league so we should beat them no matter what' attitude which i actually think can sink through to the players, especially ours. We seem to turn up against the apparent 'lesser clubs' and play like T**ts, which i suspect is what the Kiddy fan actually meant.

Its probably better for you for people to think that about yourselves, gives you the edge.

I think that kept us up last season, especially at Moss Lane which is not an easy place to come to....er that is til about February when everyone realised it and we didn't win at home for the rest of the season. Unfortunately, some clubs seemed to have picked up on that, Morecambe and to a lesser extent Burton came and did a real professional job on us (Woking were lucky)

5255
Altrincham FC First Team / Boston
« on: December 06, 2006, 11:59:22 PM »
from alty official site.

The Daily Telegraph reports that former Alty defender Paul Ellender's club, Boston United "could face extinction after the club's plans to move to a new ground were thrown out. The League Two side wanted to leave their York Street home and build a 7,500 seat-stadium to help pay off debts of £1.1 million. But Boston Borough Council rejected the scheme and the club face being wound-up by the Inland Revenue. Boston's home game against Wrexham on Saturday could now be their last match".

Now I know that the Inalnd Rev have been very patient with the Majeeds at Crawley but I can't help feeling Boston may have burnt their bridges (and blown up the orphanage!) with them!!

5256
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: FA Cup..
« on: December 06, 2006, 11:52:48 PM »

 Moving on from all this boring talk about bragging rights , do you lot think you will still be there if we do come down ? I see you're getting very close to the bottom 4 now. Most of the other relegation contenders are either full-time or are strengthening ther squads , or both.
 I know you are proud about the way you have built up your team without financial worries but you will need to invest in the squad, surely , if you are to stay up ? Will you use the Craney money or is it earmarked for debts?

As you've asked a sensible question, i'll give you a sensible answer...

We're all right thus far, the only sort of worrying thing is that some teams that I had down as being sh*t (Tamworth, ST Albans) have started picking up points. We are betterthan our rivals so to speak, beaten Tam, St ALbs and Southport at home, crucial games. The main problems is that Colin Littlles season has been disrupted by a disgusting assault by Adam Quinn of Halifax, if he'd been fit I'm pretty certain we'd be midtabl by now.

Not entirely sure the players are there for us to get, they either go/stay full time or pick up double the wage for an easy life in the Conf North (Droylsden, Lancaster or worse Fleetwood!). Nobody expects to see much money from Craney. Accy are a bunch of C**ts, headed by a horrible man called Eric Whalley and they'll try anything to stitch us up. If we did receive £50k+ it would prob be kept as safety. We're on course to wipe out the debt at the end of the season, barring council red tape and delays. Hope this was the sensible, constructive answer you were looking for.

Sheepshagging T**t.


5257
Altrincham FC First Team / Urgent plea!
« on: December 06, 2006, 08:38:52 PM »

Folks,

Does anyone have a copy of 'A Knights Tale' on dvd that I could borrow. I would come round and collect as long as I could use it during the day on Friday. Need it for a lesson. Please respond if you can. Thanks.

 :o Yes, yes, yes, I know it shouldn't be in this section but nobody will get to read it otherwise. Don't move this message Gaz, think of it as your birthday present to me. Birthday was Tuesday and we all know what an enjoyable day that was, oh what a lovely start to the day ::) :'(

p.s. Giles >:( :P :-[ :-X :'(

5258
Altrincham FC First Team / Fao Gary re Ashes
« on: November 30, 2006, 10:33:20 PM »
Costing me a forune in texts, can we have an Ashes section for the duration of the tour (or until we go 3 down at Perth)

Please ;D

5259
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: MOSS LANE WORLD CUP
« on: November 30, 2006, 10:29:41 PM »
Good question, maybe the last to play in a game involving Alty at Moss Lane would have been the boy Tugay for Blackburn Rovers last pre season?

5260
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: promotion of the club
« on: November 30, 2006, 06:26:02 PM »
Stockport? ::)

Anyway thta Cantona eats garlic song, you can have your own opinions all you want, it goes staright to the top of my all time Alty chants for one reason and one damm good reason only..

..it stopped us getting the leathering of a lifetime in a dingy pub on the Broadwater Farm estate when we sung iw away at Spurs. Why we were as stupid to plonk ourselves down in a main Spurs 'heads' pub I do not know. But they chuckled at that and left us alon as a bunch of non united supporting weirdoes. Thank God :P

5261
Altrincham FC First Team / Worth Accys while to sell Craney?
« on: November 23, 2006, 11:40:34 PM »
Like most others on here I suspect that Accy will try to sticth us up on the Craney deal, Eric Whalley is not a nice man to be trusted. I think they would love to have (any) Swansea player in a swap deal and say he is the main part of the deal.

Anyway, the point being is that I think it's worth their while to take the offer, they're all going on about how they won't let him go without a fight to a team only in the league above etc but realistically, we got Craney for now he was class for us and got us in the conf north, he then went to a full time career  (admittedly at a tinpot palace) and we got £15k and a 50% sell on clause. We wanted more but trying to hold onto him for an extra 10k wouldn't have been mega. We had our piece of him and the £15k chipped of a little bit of debt and enabled us to strenthen with Hussin, Potts, Owen, Little the rest is history.

Craneys 23 i think now, accy could fight tooth and nail to hold him back but what would that achieve, yes he may get them into the top half of lge2 (a big incentive admittedly) but his value would decrease as they go on. Fact is he's at a higher level than l2 as is Roberts. If they seel him now for 150k tehy should take the 75k, give us ours  thru gritted teeth and get teh sell on clause in. If craney is a success at Swansea (which he would be) he could go to Leeds for £500k or Forest or something and they'd coin it in anyway.

Also, given the luck they had with the Ormerod deal I think they know this and it will go through.

5262
By the way, if there are any doubters still amongst you about this scheme, as a Junior manager this is one of the best ideas the club have come up with. Three or four of my own team have enquired about going to Alty youth when they are 17-18, so this can only be of great benefit to the club, albeit more long term. There are a wealth of great teams and players in this league at all the clubs, one or two possibly premiership standard, certainly future conference players. The club are only trying to tap into this, but I really applaud both Timperley and District and the club for this scheme. All big clubs want to do is pinch all your best players whilst giving nothing back, Alty are doing a great deal to make this mutually beneficial to us and them, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE.

You may not see the benefits as yet, but you will in time to come. A few of Alty's local players are from Timperley and District. While we are on the subject, Danny Higginbotham and Danny/Chris Adams are both ex Unicorn Athletic Juniors; what more evidence do you need.

Quite, it's not strictly true that all the big clubs take the talent, when I played in the TJFL u17/u19s league a few (9 Christ :o) years ago there were a number of players not taken on by league clubs who've gone on to do ok for themselves at semi pro level. Of the top of my head I remember playing against Mike Moseley (Witton), Dave Tickle, Tony Coyne (Mossley), Demis Ohandjanian (Macc), Damian Whitehead (Macc), Andy Halfpenny (Kidsgrove) also our own Rod Thornley (yes!) - we do of course cater for the lads whoo don't get in at league clubs at 16 so as you can see, even if you've not heard of all those lads there is a bit of talent out there.

5263
Having now had the opportunity to reflect on Saturday and the comments received both directly and via the forum I feel the necessity to comment (sorry)

There are no group of individuals more committed to this Football Club nor more aware of the need to attract both new supporters and additional revenue than the Stewards, who I would remind you again are all volunteers. I find the criticism of the Stewards totally unacceptable and, to be honest very sad.

As has been posted elsewhere the Stewards, in addition to the duties set down in the Safety Procedures Manual (necessary for the Safety Certificate and therefore the operation of the ground) now cover supervision of the Car Park and also the Bar Door.
The Club has a responsibility to provide a certain number of reserved parking spaces for Match Officials, Sponsors, League Officials, the list goes on and without the sterling work of the Steward(s) doing this work, and I would remind you all being abused by people who cannot access the Car Park any more, the Club would fail in its reponsibilities on this issue.
The Bar, as we all know is a great source of Revenue for the Club and therefore its potential should be maximised. Unfortunately the Bar needs a licence and there are requirements incumbent upon the Club as conditions of that licence (together with the Safety Certificate) which necessitate the presence of a Steward on the Bar Door whilst it is open and, in fact until it has been vacated.
Also, very sadly there are people who come in to the Bar area who do try to ‘sneak’ through the back of the Bar thereby gaining entry to the match without paying. Again the Stewarding presence stops this from happening.

Maybe some other kindly individuals would like to assist the Stewarding Staff with these two tasks?

With regard to Saturday and the comments not only of  ‘Cult of’ but also comments made to the Stewarding Staff and myself personally my personal views are as follows.

I concur with the need to attract young supporters into the ground but it cannot be at the cost of current supporters. Many people who have been coming for many years and are ‘guaranteed’ sources of both support and funds quite clearly were very unhappy with events on Saturday and some have indicated that, should these events become too recurrent they would seriously consider whether to continue to provide the support and consequent revenue to the Club.

If an individual parent brings their children, perhaps with a friend or two then in the majority of cases they will, quite correctly in my view, take steps to ensure that the children are adequately supervised and not permitted to run about shrieking and disturbing other people.
I strongly believe that, where groups of children are invited, such as was the case on Saturday (in my view a very positive move) it must be made clear to the accompanying adults that they are expected to exercise a degree of supervision over their charges.

On Saturday the Stewarding staff were put in an invidious position, complaints from regular supporters were responded to by polite requests to the Children to sit down and not to disturb the enjoyment of other supporters. These requests were generally totally ignored and when the Steward(s) spoke again to the Child they were accused of being heavy handed. I personally asked two young children to sit down rather than stand blocking both a staircase out of the stand and the view of other supporters and the away bench and was told , by a parent, that they were only kids and that I should leave them alone.

I feel that the poster who suggested that, should a Child fall down the stairs and injure themselves the Club would not be sued is being, at best naïve and at worst blind to todays litigious society and, what happens if a child careering around the stand trips an elderly spectator who then falls and sustains a serious injury (fractured hip etc)? Do you think that the Club would be excused any responsibility for that?

It has been suggested that the Children be accommodated in the Family Stand, excellent idea, that’s what it’s there for eh? 
Sorry, slight problem – the sponsors who sit in there complaining to the Stewards about the noise and their enjoyment being disturbed.

If, as certain posters have suggested the Children should be welcomed and it is the responsibility of the Stewards to control them without upsetting them or their parents then maybe they’d like to volunteer to help next time we have an influx such as Saturday. (MarkEcky, Ballers, SW over to you)


Phil,

 with respect there's not been any criticisms of the stewards in this thread. The only thing I can see is kidlad on page 2 asking whether it would be better if the stewards allocated them an area of seating and wathced over them. Now that's not the stewards job I know but it's not a criticism, nor is it such an outlandish idea if you don't work as a steward. i.e. some people are getting a bit irritated by kids running up and down the stairs, well who does suggest that they sit somewhere else or who does ask them to sit down. It's not really my place as a normal punter to do so is it. Only the stewards could really do that i think.

Neither did Ecky criticise, he just siad that the door doesn't need to be opened really when there's a fire door next to it but if you want I'll man it wiith Gary if it helps matters.

I can see why the stewards felt put in a bit of a position on saturday, fair enough,but I think a bit of this is the stewards feeling undermanned and undervalued. That's fair enough, don't we all want a bit more tlc? :-* - Guys I know you do an awesome job, your professionalism and training is a credit to the club and gave me faith that we would always be back here - seriously when we used to go to Unibond grounds and their token gesture was a luminous bib on a 7 year old ballboy I always reflected on the fact that we're a proper outfit, Rays excellent ballboy group, the stewards, the presence of a St. Johns ambulance hut etc.

What I'm saying is that we have 3 groups going in 2 stands, schools, sponsors and grumpy ol...resident stand dwellers ;) but you can't really cut back on either of them. The thing is when there are large groups being admitted their is less likely to be guardian control. I think on schools outings the adult to child ratio has to be something like 1:5 - in a primary school where there is possibly only 1 male teavher you're not going to get 5 female teachers giving up their saturday afternoon, why would they, there'll be stewards there won't there :-\

Maybe the solution is too offer 5 free adult tickets to groups of 25 children, if it brings parents down who wouldn't normally then so be it. But for some people to complaina bout their pesence is a little off, like I say in a football ground you don't choose who else is there or if they can make any noise or not. That's not a particular criticism by the way Cult, clearly if kids are disturbing peoples view etc someone needs to have a word somewhere and I'm well aware that if a kid fell down the stairs we'd have our arses sued, absolutely no doubt.

I don't know, it just seems a touch negative. Maybe what's needed is a steward (and I know we barely have enough) who is in the stand to be a child specific steward, not to be forever chasing them around but to be introduced to the parents/guardians associated with teh group beforehand to strike up a relationship (wahey :D) with them, explain the situation about the health and safety to tehm and when tehy are running riot just quietly have a word with the guardian who they are on good terms with. Otherwise guys it will look like you're jobworths when you go over to the kids, as this thread shows perceptions are different. And as a teacher I acn assure you that if you start on 2 kids sat in a gangway quoting health and safety legislation you might as well be speaking dutch to them.

And if Ecky, myself or I dunno Karen Rowley/Bill Coop did it we'd just be the organiser person that it wouldn't necessarily be as effective. DO you see the halfway house i'm getting at here?

5264
Have some karma my young padawan ;)

5265
Jez,
I was around eight years of age when my father first brought me to Moss Lane.
Unlike the majority of parents there yesterday, he certainly ensured that I didn't run around the Main Stand like a headless chicken (and, no, that is not a reference to Peter Band, before Mrs Band comes on here to reprimand me!!).
Yesterday was an accident waiting to happen in terms of children falling and injuring themselves and must have given the Alty stewards kittens.
No doubt then, the parents would have blamed the club for any incident!

Ballers,
If you seriously think that a gang of screaming young girls creates atmosphere, then I suggest that you spend your money on going to Westlife concerts rather than Moss Lane!
You are deluding yourself if you seriously believe that the seven and eight year old girls who were present yesterday are the future at Moss Lane!
They weren't interested and neither were their parents.
End of rant.   

Cult
I am happy to say that my main focus was on the game rather than any 7 or 8 year old girls who were present. I didn't really notice who the kids were. I saw 3 young lads in front of me absolutely enthralled by the game for 90 mins, their reaction to Lewis goal was worth the entrance money alone, wjo were happy at the Alty chants coming from the back of the stand.

With respect, there is a slightly bigger picture here. I don't believe the 7 or 8 year old girls will be making up our future crowds but consider this as Crciket Australia did in the mid 80s....

Todays girls are tomorrows mums cult, we don't live in a society where it's dads and lads following the local team passing the young uns down to the front. In time their sons may hear about Alty and want to come down. A positive memory or at least recognitionof what Moss Lane is might actually make all the difference to whether they pander to little Jonnys wishes and feed his Alty bug. Now I appreciate that it may be some time before we see that happen, unlike Crawley or Stevenage who'd only have to wait 7 or 8 years  :D :D but it's worth it. Not all dads are present and correct mate.

I remember one of the first Alty games I came to was with my mum in about 1981, think we beat Trowbridge 4-0 or soemthing, my dad was away driving Shearings coaches, mum took me - why I don't know, knew I was keen on football tho but she could easily have shrugged it off and taken me to Auntie Clare's to play with my cousin while they had a Saturday afternoon natter over a cup of coffe - but she took me, I remember mostly playing on the grass bank! Now this isn't the only reason I now watch Alty but it was one more positive memory that bonds me to teh place. Baby steps cult, baby steps.

Also consider the effect it has on the lads, if 2 boys went to the game the conversation about it at school on Monday would last about 5 minutes. I fthe whole class went then at least it will be perpetuated for a while, girls an all. These kids aren't Jedis, we can't scan them to check if the force is strong in them and concentrate on the ones who will return you've got to cast the net a bit.

It may have been inconvenient to resident stand dwellers but do you not think there is a greater good here? could you put up with it occasionaly? If they were as uninterested as you say they won't take up the free ticket offers to often.

Regards
Ballers

p.s. the cheerleaders, ahem, It doesn't attract me (now) and at 13 years of age the lure of seeing if Steve Saunders and Ian Tunnicliffe would gel as a partnership was enough for me but I think I can predict that soon we will see a keen interest in Alty games from the boroughs 13/14 year old lads more regularly...regardless of whether Joe O'Neill is a 5 or 7 goal a season man ;)

Pages: 1 ... 346 347 348 349 350 [351] 352 353